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Re: Ako vam je ten previše taman ne birnite, tu je sapun "Dove"

Post by Julia-Klara » 09 Oct 2017, 12:30

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Re: Ako vam je ten previše taman ne birnite, tu je sapun "Dove"

Post by Zagorka » 09 Oct 2017, 15:22

Cek je li ova gornja postaje donja ili desna postaje lijeva?
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Re: Ako vam je ten previše taman ne birnite, tu je sapun "Dove"

Post by Tokmak » 09 Oct 2017, 15:38

Krokodil Behko wrote: 09 Oct 2017, 10:28
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Brend za ličnu njegu Dove uputio je izvinjenje nakon što je objavio seriju rasističkih slika na kojima je prikazano kako žena crne boje kože postaje bijela nakon korištenja Dove sapuna.
Kampanja koja je okarakterisana kao "veoma neupućena i neznalačka" prikazuje ženu crne boje kože kako skida majicu da bi se ispod pojavila bjelkinja.

"Slika koju smo nedavno objavili na Facebooku nije ispunila zamišljenu namjeru da zastupa žene koje ne pripadaju bijeloj rasi. Duboko žalimo zbog uvreda koje su nanesene", napisala je ova kozmetička kompanija na svom Twitter profilu.

Nejasno je za koje tržište je bila namijenjena ova reklama.

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možda za tržište Bronxa? :ovaj
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Re: Ako vam je ten previše taman ne birnite, tu je sapun "Dove"

Post by rethna » 09 Oct 2017, 23:30

Zasto da brinu ako im je taman :ovaj
I zar moze biti previse taman :poludio
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Re: Ako vam je ten previše taman ne birnite, tu je sapun "Dove"

Post by posmatrac » 09 Oct 2017, 23:35

Kladim se da bi Michael JAcksonu da je ziv ovo bile omiljene slicice i reklama :D

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Re: Ako vam je ten previše taman ne birnite, tu je sapun "Dove"

Post by Lavlje_srce » 10 Oct 2017, 00:17

Odavno nisam vidjela nesto debilnije. I ja su ih bojkotirati a nije mi Dove bio los ranije. Bruka i sramota. :grana

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Re: Ako vam je ten previše taman ne birnite, tu je sapun "Dove"

Post by Socrates » 10 Oct 2017, 00:22

Ja ne mogu da vjerujem da je ovo prošlo kontrolu u kompaniji. :lupa

Koji je idiot pri čistoj svijesti ovo mogao da odobri?
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Re: Ako vam je ten previše taman ne birnite, tu je sapun "Dove"

Post by Maja » 10 Oct 2017, 00:30

Bila je hrpa reklama i vijesti na forumu na ovaj fazon kako crnac postane bijelac nakon nečeg... u jednoj je i Kinez bio, samo ne znam šta je postao poslije. Možda Indijanac :rol

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Re: Ako vam je ten previše taman ne birnite, tu je sapun "Dove"

Post by Lavlje_srce » 10 Oct 2017, 00:30

Teski rasizam. Operes se Dove-om i postanes cista. I bijela. Fuj. :bua

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Re: Ako vam je ten previše taman ne birnite, tu je sapun "Dove"

Post by String » 10 Oct 2017, 00:33

Znaci ovaj sapun ti sjebe facu? Ova bijela ima facu k'o alpska koza. Crnkinja je ljepsa 10x.
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Re: Ako vam je ten previše taman ne birnite, tu je sapun "Dove"

Post by Maja » 10 Oct 2017, 00:34

Đe si Strinže.

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Re: Ako vam je ten previše taman ne birnite, tu je sapun "Dove"

Post by String » 10 Oct 2017, 00:39

Maja wrote: 10 Oct 2017, 00:34Đe si Strinže.
Evo me okupao se sa Dove kupkom pa pocrnio. :D.
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Re: Ako vam je ten previše taman ne birnite, tu je sapun "Dove"

Post by storm » 10 Oct 2017, 05:56

Direktni rasizam i tako to treba nazvati...
Samo sto je svijet poludio i vecina se samo smije.
Habibti, ya nour el - ain... :srce

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Re: Ako vam je ten previše taman ne birnite, tu je sapun "Dove"

Post by Nice try » 10 Oct 2017, 08:03

Svijet oduvijek ima takvo mišljenje,nije odskora poludio.
Glupa reklama,glup slogan,proizvod bezveze.
Kao velika i svjetski poznata kompanija, potpuno su me s ovim razočarali.
"Nećemo ništa razumeti od hoda sveta ako budemo zamišljali da ljudi uvek postupaju pravedno..."

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Re: Ako vam je ten previše taman ne birnite, tu je sapun "Dove"

Post by gospođa Brams » 10 Oct 2017, 15:32

Ta bjelkinja se na kraju "pretvori" u ženu nešto tamnijeg tena. Ali to se ne spominje jer bitan je ovaj prvi dio :oo
Proizvod bi trebao biti namjenjen za sve tipove kože i to je valjda poruka reklame. Reklama je glupa ali ništa puno gluplja od većine današnjih reklama.
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Re: Ako vam je ten previše taman ne birnite, tu je sapun "Dove"

Post by Lavlje_srce » 10 Oct 2017, 21:30

gospođa Brams wrote: 10 Oct 2017, 15:32 Ta bjelkinja se na kraju "pretvori" u ženu nešto tamnijeg tena. Ali to se ne spominje jer bitan je ovaj prvi dio :oo
Proizvod bi trebao biti namjenjen za sve tipove kože i to je valjda poruka reklame. Reklama je glupa ali ništa puno gluplja od većine današnjih reklama.
Ma nemoj? Hoces reci da smo mi glupi pa nam je promakla poenta, no sva sreca da si ti tu da nam pojasnis. :oo

To sto pises je besmislica jer da je tako kako pises kompanija se ne bi ispricala niti bi reklama bila povucena.

Following the removal of the advert, Dove, which is owned by Unilever, tweeted: “An image we recently posted on Facebook missed the mark in representing women of colour thoughtfully. We deeply regret the offence it caused.”

In a further statement Dove said: “As a part of a campaign for Dove body wash, a three-second video clip was posted to the US Facebook page.
“This did not represent the diversity of real beauty which is something Dove is passionate about and is core to our beliefs, and it should not have happened.
“We have removed the post and have not published any other related content. We apologise deeply and sincerely for the offence that it has caused.”

However the damage was done and the nearly 3,000 comments below the tweet were almost exclusively negative. Many social media users called for a boycott of Dove’s products.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... -white-one

Da je poruka reklame ta 'da je namijenjena svim tipovima koze', onda bi svaka od njih skinula majicu i imala vidljivo meksu, barsunastu kozu. No to im nije poslo za rukom/Photoshop-om/produktom koji reklamiraju, pa su potegli staru, dobru rasisticku kartu. :bua

Trebalo bi ih na sud i kazniti milionskom svotom. To bi im instantno zalijecilo rasizam. :love:

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Re: Ako vam je ten previše taman ne birnite, tu je sapun "Dove"

Post by Socrates » 10 Oct 2017, 21:43

Ja imam neki sapun od kruske od njih i u moralnoj sam dilemi da li da ga iskoristim.

Ako se nakon upotrebe pretvorim u Kineza, hoce li me Bosanski Forum prihvatiti kao ravnopravnog clana?

Sta bi Hani mislio o tome? :hm
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Re: Ako vam je ten previše taman ne birnite, tu je sapun "Dove"

Post by Socrates » 10 Oct 2017, 21:47

Da predstavimo sve strane argumenta.

Lola Ogunyemi, nigerijski model koji se pojavljuje u reklami, zapravo brani reklamu;

"Having the opportunity to represent my dark-skinned sisters in a global beauty brand felt like the perfect way for me to remind the world that we are here, we are beautiful, and more importantly, we are valued," she wrote in an editorial for The Guardian.
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Post by Lavlje_srce » 10 Oct 2017, 22:30

Socrates wrote: 10 Oct 2017, 21:47 Da predstavimo sve strane argumenta.

Lola Ogunyemi, nigerijski model koji se pojavljuje u reklami, zapravo brani reklamu;

"Having the opportunity to represent my dark-skinned sisters in a global beauty brand felt like the perfect way for me to remind the world that we are here, we are beautiful, and more importantly, we are valued," she wrote in an editorial for The Guardian.
Vadis tu izjavu iz konteksta, valjda ne znas koju temu bi zatrolao. Trebao si procitati clanak do kraja. :rol

If you Google “racist ad” right now, a picture of my face is the first result. I had been excited to be a part of the commercial and promote the strength and beauty of my race, so for it to be met with widespread outrage was upsetting.

Calls were being made to boycott Dove products, and friends from all over the world were checking on me to see if I was OK. I was overwhelmed by just how controversial the ad had become.

If I had even the slightest inclination that I would be portrayed as inferior, or as the “before” in a before and after shot, I would have been the first to say an emphatic “no”. I would have (un)happily walked right off set and out of the door. That is something that goes against everything I stand for.

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Re: Ako vam je ten previše taman ne birnite, tu je sapun "Dove"

Post by Socrates » 10 Oct 2017, 22:37

Sad si i ti uradila isto sto i ja. :ooo Zena je podijeljena.

Evo, nastavak na to tvoje.
Calls were being made to boycott Dove products, and friends from all over the world were checking on me to see if I was OK. I was overwhelmed by just how controversial the ad had become.

If I had even the slightest inclination that I would be portrayed as inferior, or as the “before” in a before and after shot, I would have been the first to say an emphatic “no”. I would have (un)happily walked right off set and out of the door. That is something that goes against everything I stand for.

However, the experience I had with the Dove team was positive. I had an amazing time on set. All of the women in the shoot understood the concept and overarching objective – to use our differences to highlight the fact that all skin deserves gentleness.

I remember all of us being excited at the idea of wearing nude T-shirts and turning into one another. We weren’t sure how the final edit was going to look, nor which of us would actually be featured in it, but everyone seemed to be in great spirits during filming, including me.

Then the first Facebook ad was released: a 13-second video clip featuring me, a white woman, and an Asian woman removing our nude tops and changing into each other. I loved it. My friends and family loved it. People congratulated me for being the first to appear, for looking fabulous, and for representing Black Girl Magic. I was proud.



Then, the full, 30-second TV commercial was released in the US, and I was over the moon again. There were seven of us in the full version, different races and ages, each of us answering the same question: “If your skin were a wash label, what would it say?”

Again, I was the first model to appear in the ad, describing my skin as “20% dry, 80% glowing”, and appearing again at the end. I loved it, and everyone around me seemed to as well. I think the full TV edit does a much better job of making the campaign’s message loud and clear.

There is definitely something to be said here about how advertisers need to look beyond the surface and consider the impact their images may have, specifically when it comes to marginalized groups of women. It is important to examine whether your content shows that your consumer’s voice is not only heard, but also valued.

I can see how the snapshots that are circulating the web have been misinterpreted, considering the fact that Dove has faced a backlash in the past for the exact same issue. There is a lack of trust here, and I feel the public was justified in their initial outrage. Having said that, I can also see that a lot has been left out. The narrative has been written without giving consumers context on which to base an informed opinion.

While I agree with Dove’s response to unequivocally apologise for any offense caused, they could have also defended their creative vision, and their choice to include me, an unequivocally dark-skinned black woman, as a face of their campaign. I am not just some silent victim of a mistaken beauty campaign. I am strong, I am beautiful, and I will not be erased.
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