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Bespilotne letjelice

Post by Krokodil Behko » 25 May 2021, 08:50

Predsjednik Turske Recep Tayyip Erdogan izjavio je u Ankari kako potpisanim sporazumom između dvije zemlje njegova država prvi put u svojoj historiji, izvozom u Poljsku, izvozi borbene bespilotne letjelice jednoj članici Evropske unije (EU) i NATO-a, javlja Anadolu Agency (AA).

Kakve su naše šanse, da proizvedemo dronove, a da vrijede nešto?
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Re: Bespilotne letjelice

Post by The 51st State » 25 May 2021, 09:06

Krokodil Behko wrote: 25 May 2021, 08:50
Predsjednik Turske Recep Tayyip Erdogan izjavio je u Ankari kako potpisanim sporazumom između dvije zemlje njegova država prvi put u svojoj historiji, izvozom u Poljsku, izvozi borbene bespilotne letjelice jednoj članici Evropske unije (EU) i NATO-a, javlja Anadolu Agency (AA).

Kakve su naše šanse, da proizvedemo dronove, a da vrijede nešto?
nikakve, nemas motora, nemas kompozitne materijale, nemas elektronicku industriju, dakle maksimalni domet je sarafanje tudjih proizvoda.

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Re: Bespilotne letjelice

Post by Krokodil Behko » 07 Jun 2021, 14:33

RUSKI VOJNI EKSPERTI OTKRILI: Evo zašto je turski dron Bajraktar tako moćan (VIDEO)


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Ruski mediji objavili su snimak na kojem se vidi kako turski dron Bajraktar TB uspješno neutrališe dvije rakete PVO sistema Osa.

Nakon lansiranja, prva raketa presreće turski dron svojim termičkim senzorom i nadgleda njegovo nadolazeće kretanje. I baš kada se očekuje da raketa pogodi dron, ona mijenja kurs, ostavljajući Bajraktar-TB2 netaknutim. Slično se desilo i s drugom raketom.

Vojni stručnjaci su objasnili zašto dvije rakete nisu "preživele" turski dron, uprkos uspješnom presretanju.

Prema njihovim riječima, razlog je jednostavan, Bajraktar-TB2 ima savršen sistem za vođenje elektronskog ratovanja. Kada su se rakete približile bespilotnoj letjelici na optimalnu udaljenost, njegovi sistemi za zaštitu su se aktivirali i uspjeli "spaliti" ploču za elektronsko navođenje. To automatski znači da toplotni senzor više ne radi i raketa ne vidi cilj.



Bayraktar TB2 je turska bespilotna letjelica srednje nadmorske visine, dugog dometa, sposobna za daljinsko upravljanje ili autonomne letačke operacije.

Proizvodi ga turska firma Baykar prvenstveno za tursko ratno zrakoplovstvo. Dron nadzire i kontrolira ekipa u Kopnenoj kontrolnoj stanici, uključujući upotrebu oružja, putem satelita Türksat.

Za razvoj turske letjelice uglavnom je zaslužan Selçuk Bayraktar, bivši student MIT-a (Massachusetts Institute of Technology u Sjedinjenim Američkim Državama).


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Re: Bespilotne letjelice

Post by Krokodil Behko » 30 Aug 2021, 09:17

"Turska je među tri vodeće države u svijetu u tehnologiji borbenih bespilotnih letjelica, cilj je..."


Na ceremoniji uručenja borbene bespilotne letjelice Bayraktar Akinci u sjeverozapadnoj provinciji Tekirdag Erdogan je rekao da je Turska odlučna u namjeri da postane vodeća država u proizvodnji borbenih bespilotnih letjelica, i da mora razvijati nove tehnologije.

Kazao je da je cilj Turske razviti bespilotne letjelice koje mogu poletjeti i sletjeti na nosače aviona s kratkim pistama za upotrebu u misijama u inostranstvu.

Prema njegovim riječima, sa 20 posto domaćeg učešća u odbrambenoj industriji za kratko vrijeme približiti se 80 posto, jedan je od najvećih uspjeha u historiji Republike Turske.



"Bayraktar TB2 smo izvezli u Ukrajinu, Katar i Azerbejdžan, sklopljeni su i prave se novi sporazumi za izvoz", istakao je Erdogan.

Dodao je da ima još mnogo država koje čekaju turske bespilotne letjelice.

Turska borbena bespilotna letjelica Bayraktar Akinci (TIHA), koju je lokalnim i nacionalnim sredstvima i kapacitetima proizvela kompanija Baykar, 8. jula usponom na 38.039 stopa (11.594 metra) oborila je visinski rekord turske avijacije. Bespilotna letjelica Bayraktar Akinci na tom letu je provela 25 sati i 46 minuta.

Letjelice Akinci, koje su do sada izvršile 874 naleta u probnim i trenažnim letovima, s potpunom su tačnošću pogodile svoje ciljeve u testiranju 5. jula s bojevom municijom koju je razvio turski proizvođač raketa Roketsan.
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Re: Bespilotne letjelice

Post by Pasaga » 30 Aug 2021, 21:35

kupit 5-6 kom.
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Ne obracaj mi se:
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Re: Bespilotne letjelice

Post by General War » 11 Nov 2021, 14:59

Krokodil Behko wrote: 07 Jun 2021, 14:33
RUSKI VOJNI EKSPERTI OTKRILI: Evo zašto je turski dron Bajraktar tako moćan (VIDEO)


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Ruski mediji objavili su snimak na kojem se vidi kako turski dron Bajraktar TB uspješno neutrališe dvije rakete PVO sistema Osa.

Nakon lansiranja, prva raketa presreće turski dron svojim termičkim senzorom i nadgleda njegovo nadolazeće kretanje. I baš kada se očekuje da raketa pogodi dron, ona mijenja kurs, ostavljajući Bajraktar-TB2 netaknutim. Slično se desilo i s drugom raketom.

Vojni stručnjaci su objasnili zašto dvije rakete nisu "preživele" turski dron, uprkos uspješnom presretanju.

Prema njihovim riječima, razlog je jednostavan, Bajraktar-TB2 ima savršen sistem za vođenje elektronskog ratovanja. Kada su se rakete približile bespilotnoj letjelici na optimalnu udaljenost, njegovi sistemi za zaštitu su se aktivirali i uspjeli "spaliti" ploču za elektronsko navođenje. To automatski znači da toplotni senzor više ne radi i raketa ne vidi cilj.



Bayraktar TB2 je turska bespilotna letjelica srednje nadmorske visine, dugog dometa, sposobna za daljinsko upravljanje ili autonomne letačke operacije.

Proizvodi ga turska firma Baykar prvenstveno za tursko ratno zrakoplovstvo. Dron nadzire i kontrolira ekipa u Kopnenoj kontrolnoj stanici, uključujući upotrebu oružja, putem satelita Türksat.

Za razvoj turske letjelice uglavnom je zaslužan Selçuk Bayraktar, bivši student MIT-a (Massachusetts Institute of Technology u Sjedinjenim Američkim Državama).


Ovo mislim da uopste nije bajraktar, sjecam se cini mi se negdje ovog snimka hutija kako obaraju saudijski - kineski dron...na kraju se jasno vidi da dron krece prema zemlji u spirali...dron kaput.

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Re: Bespilotne letjelice

Post by General War » 11 Nov 2021, 15:03

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Re: Bespilotne letjelice

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10. TAI Anka
The Anka unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) has been operational with the Turkish Air Force since 2017. Developed by Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI), the UAV is designed to meet the reconnaissance, surveillance, target recognition, and detection requirements of the Turkish Armed Forces.

The total payload carrying capacity of the Anka UAV is 200kg, which includes an identification friend or foe (IFF) system, laser designator, laser finder, and weapon payloads such as Rokestan smart micro munition (MAM-L), air-launched missile launcher, and laser-guided CIRIT 2.75in rocket.

The combat drone is powered by a 150hp turboprop PD170 engine developed by Turkish Engine Industries (TEI). It has a maximum take-off weight of 1,600kg, maximum altitude of 30,000ft, and endurance of more than 24 hours.

9. MQ-5B Hunter
Designed and developed by Northrop Grumman, the MQ-5B Hunter multi-mission unmanned aircraft has been operational with the US Armed Forces for the last two decades, meeting all the standards set by the US Department of Defense.

The Hunter UAV is capable of carrying a total payload of 226.8kg. It can carry multiple sensors such as electro-optical (EO)/infrared (IR) and communication systems in addition to external weapons such as Northrop Grumman Viper Strike laser-guided munition.

Powered by a heavy fuel engine, the MQ5B Hunter has a maximum take-off weight of 884.50kg and a maximum service ceiling of 18,000ft. The unmanned aircraft can reach a maximum speed of 120k and endure for 21 hours. MQ-5C e-Hunter, a larger version of the MQ-5B, is capable of remaining airborne for up to 30 hours.

8. CAIG Wing Loong II
The Wing Loong II unmanned aerial vehicle, designed and developed by the Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC), is the advanced version of Wing Loong I UAV. The aircraft serves the People’s Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF).

Intended for surveillance, reconnaissance, and aerial strike, the drone can carry a maximum external payload of 480kg. It can carry up to 12 laser-guided bombs or missiles, including FT-9/50 bombs, GB3 250kg laser-guided bombs, and TL-10 missiles.

The medium-altitude long-endurance (MALE) aircraft can endure for 32 hours and cruise at a maximum speed of 199k. It has a maximum take-off weight of 4,200kg and a service ceiling of 32,480ft.

7. MQ-1C Gray Eagle
The MQ-1C Gray Eagle unmanned aircraft system (UAS) was developed as part of the US Army Aviation modernisation plan. Designed by General Atomics Aeronautical Systems (GA-ASI), the aircraft is used to meet the reconnaissance, surveillance, and target acquisition (RSTA) requirements.

The UAS is designed to carry a total payload of 488kg while its full fuel and external payload capacities are respectively 261kg and 227kg. The combat drone version can carry four Hellfire missiles. Other payloads include EO/IR sensors, synthetic aperture radar, and communication relay sensors.

Powered by Thielert 165 HP heavy-fuel engine, the MQ-1C Gray Eagle has a maximum take-off weight of 1,633kg. The maximum permitted altitude and a maximum speed of the UAV are 29,000ft and 167k, respectively. The UAS has a maximum endurance of 25 hours while the extended range version offers an endurance of 40 hours.

6. Yabhon United 40
The Yabhon United 40 MALE aircraft, also known as Smart Eye 2, is designed and developed by UAE-based manufacturer ADCOM Systems. The aircraft is in service with Algerian Forces and locally named as Algeria 54.

The multi-mission UAV is capable of carrying a maximum payload of 1,000kg, which includes sensors and surveillance systems such as camera platforms, synthetic aperture radar (SAR), and sonar. The combat drone features four pods under the wing for carrying ammunition weighing up to 400kg. The unmanned aircraft also has provision for additional fitment of external payload near the belly of the fuselage.

Powered by a hybrid turbine-electric propulsion system, the aircraft can reach a maximum speed of 118k and can remain airborne for 120 hours. The maximum permissible take-off weight of the aircraft is 1,500kg.

5. CH-5
The CH-5 UAV, also known as Rainbow UAV, is designed and developed by the China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation (CASC). The unmanned aircraft was introduced first in November 2016 and resembles the US-made MQ-9 Reaper drone.

The combat drone is capable of carrying out combat missions, reconnaissance, surveillance, patrol, and target positioning. It has a maximum take-off weight of 3,300kg and payload capacity of 1,200kg. The hard-points on each wing can be attached with a quad pack of AR-2 SAL guided anti-armour missiles and two twin-packs of AR-1 SAL missiles.

Powered by a 330HP single engine, the aircraft can reach a speed of 118k and offer a maximum endurance of 60 hours.

4. Predator B (MQ-9 Reaper)
The Predator B (MQ-9 Reaper) UAS is in service with the US Air Force, Nasa, the Royal Air Force and the Italian, French and Spanish air forces. Developed by GA-ASI, the remotely piloted aircraft (RPA) is designed to comply with the STANAG 4671 Nato standards.

The Predator B combat drone is twice as fast as its predecessor Predator and can carry 500% more payload. It is capable of reaching maximum altitudes up to 50,000ft and has a maximum speed of 240k and endurance of 27 hours.

Powered by a Honeywell TPE331-10 turboprop engine, the UAV can hold a maximum payload of 1,746kg, including an external payload of 1,361kg. It is capable of carrying multi-mission payloads such as EO/IR systems, Lynx multi-mode radar, multi-mode maritime surveillance radar, electronic support measures (ESM), laser designators. It can also hold various weapon systems, including GM-114 Hellfire missiles, GBU-12 Paveway II bombs, and a GBU-JDAM kit.

3. MQ-9B SkyGuardian
The MQ-9B SkyGuardian RPA will enter service with the Royal Air Force as part of its Protector RG Mk1 programme in 2020. Developed by GA-ASI, the UAV is designed in accordance with the Nato STANAG 4671 UAV system airworthiness requirements and the UK Def Stan 00-970 design and airworthiness standards.

The UAV has a maximum take-off weight of 5,670kg and features nine payload stations, which can hold a maximum payload of 1,814kg. It is capable of carrying combat payloads such as 500lb GBU-12 Paveway II laser-guided bombs and/or AGM114 Hellfire missiles.

The SkyGurardian RPA features detect and avoid (DAA) system developed by GA-ASI. It is capable of flying at altitudes above 40,000ft with maximum speeds of 210k and remaining airborne for more than 40 hours.

2. Heron TP
Heron TP, also known as Eitan, is an automatic taxi-take-off and landing (ATOL) drone designed and developed by Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI). The combat drone is in service with the Israeli Defence Force (IDF).

It is capable of carrying a maximum payload of 2,700kg, which includes multiple mission systems such as synthetic aperture radar (SAR), Global System for Mobile communications (GSM), communication intelligence sensors, and combat payloads such as guided bombs and air-to-ground missiles.

Powered by a single Pratt and Whitney PT-6A 1,200bhp engine, the aircraft can endure for more than 30 hours while flying at a maximum speed of 220kt. The maximum permissible take-off weight of the aircraft is 5,670kg.

1.Predator C Avenger
Fast Facts: 460 mph (max speed), 402 mph (cruise speed), 18 hours of endurance
Cost: $12-$15 Million
Dimensions: 44′ x 66′
Range: 15,240 miles
First flight: 2009




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Re: Bespilotne letjelice

Post by The 51st State » 11 Nov 2021, 15:16

General War wrote: 11 Nov 2021, 15:03 inace...

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Inac odavmo sve zamjenjeno domacim prozivodima. Volis slagati to je cudo jedno i na kiksu sam te moro ispravljati.

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Post by General War » 11 Nov 2021, 15:20

The 51st State wrote: 11 Nov 2021, 15:16
General War wrote: 11 Nov 2021, 15:03 inace...

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Inac odavmo sve zamjenjeno domacim prozivodima. Volis slagati to je cudo jedno i na kiksu sam te moro ispravljati.
A jel...imas li kavu informaciju...il rekla ti tetka od dajnice..koliko vidim bas znas objasnit.

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Re: Bespilotne letjelice

Post by The 51st State » 11 Nov 2021, 15:25

General War wrote: 11 Nov 2021, 15:20
The 51st State wrote: 11 Nov 2021, 15:16

Inac odavmo sve zamjenjeno domacim prozivodima. Volis slagati to je cudo jedno i na kiksu sam te moro ispravljati.
A jel...imas li kavu informaciju...il rekla ti tetka od dajnice..koliko vidim bas znas objasnit.
Wescam zamjenjen aselsanom, rotax domacim motorom i tako redom, imas primjer u clanku, sve ovakve firme su ekspresno zamjenjene.

Mislim ti mozes nastaviti misliti da su turci ko iz prica od tvoje babe ili nesto tako, no realnost je drugacija.

https://www.dailysabah.com/business/def ... -on-turkey

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Re: Bespilotne letjelice

Post by General War » 11 Nov 2021, 15:46

The 51st State wrote: 11 Nov 2021, 15:25
General War wrote: 11 Nov 2021, 15:20
A jel...imas li kavu informaciju...il rekla ti tetka od dajnice..koliko vidim bas znas objasnit.
Wescam zamjenjen aselsanom, rotax domacim motorom i tako redom, imas primjer u clanku, sve ovakve firme su ekspresno zamjenjene.

Mislim ti mozes nastaviti misliti da su turci ko iz prica od tvoje babe ili nesto tako, no realnost je drugacija.

https://www.dailysabah.com/business/def ... -on-turkey
A ha..samo gledaj datume, i reci tetki da ti cesce salje novine:

https://www.dailysabah.com/business/def ... baijan-aid

A ja koliko znam, motori koji trebaju da zamjene rotax jos nisu u seriskoj upotrebi za TB2.

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Re: Bespilotne letjelice

Post by Osa » 11 Nov 2021, 16:01

a u medjuvremenu, cekamo na "Akinci".

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Trebo si ovo poslati onima u nagorno karabah i reci im da se opuste, fake dron, nemre im nista :D.
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Post by General War » 11 Nov 2021, 16:13

Fuddo wrote: 11 Nov 2021, 16:02
General War wrote: 11 Nov 2021, 15:03 inace...

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Trebo si ovo poslati onima u nagorno karabah i reci im da se opuste, fake dron, nemre im nista :D.
Nisam ja vec grci i armenci hoce da blokiraju u kongresu, trci nedaj, budi koristan. :oo

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Re: Bespilotne letjelice

Post by Fuddo » 11 Nov 2021, 16:15

General War wrote: 11 Nov 2021, 16:13
Fuddo wrote: 11 Nov 2021, 16:02

Trebo si ovo poslati onima u nagorno karabah i reci im da se opuste, fake dron, nemre im nista :D.
Nisam ja vec grci i armenci hoce da blokiraju u kongresu, trci nedaj, budi koristan. :oo
Al su ga izblokirali
Svaka im cast
Samo su dugmici ostali :D.
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Re: Bespilotne letjelice

Post by MorningStar » 11 Nov 2021, 16:21

Sta li jos postoji, a sto ne znamo :hm (vidim na videu unclassified a video mozda 20 godina star) :oo

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Re: Bespilotne letjelice

Post by Osa » 11 Nov 2021, 16:21

Fuddo wrote: 11 Nov 2021, 16:15
General War wrote: 11 Nov 2021, 16:13
Nisam ja vec grci i armenci hoce da blokiraju u kongresu, trci nedaj, budi koristan. :oo
Al su ga izblokirali
Svaka im cast
Samo su dugmici ostali :D.
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Re: Bespilotne letjelice

Post by Krokodil Behko » 11 Nov 2021, 16:22

Koji je to jezik uopšte? :D.
Nedamo ni na engleskom, pogotoov ne na klingonskom.

Msm, ukoliko Turci imaju sigurnu opskrbu tom opremom, nije nešto sporno što su strane komponente.
Zapravo, nije ništa manja fora obučiti ljude za rad s tim čudesom :hm
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Re: Bespilotne letjelice

Post by Fuddo » 11 Nov 2021, 16:22

MorningStar wrote: 11 Nov 2021, 16:21 Sta li jos postoji, a sto ne znamo :hm (vidim na videu unclassified a video mozda 20 godina star) :oo
Ovo su prvi put testirali na Beogradu.
Radi.
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