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Re: Njemačka ide u strogi lockdown do 14. veljače, donosimo detalje

Post by HAVANA » 20 Jan 2021, 10:26

Sam da me puste na doljanima,ode havana bucbuc :jupi
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HAVANA wrote: 20 Jan 2021, 10:26 Sam da me puste na doljanima,ode havana bucbuc :jupi
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HAVANA wrote: 20 Jan 2021, 10:26 Sam da me puste na doljanima,ode havana bucbuc :jupi
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HAVANA wrote: 20 Jan 2021, 10:26 Sam da me puste na doljanima,ode havana bucbuc :jupi
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Post by Taare » 20 Jan 2021, 18:23

Pa jedini pametni. Zaboli bošnje racku, nema sekirancije.
Ko jbe ove što lude zbog korone.
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Post by insomnia » 20 Jan 2021, 18:34

Kaze maloprije Le Pen, nije Marina no rodica joj da su novinari u Nici uporedjivali podatke iz bolnica sa zvanicnim podatcima i ispada da su ovi zvanicni otprilike tri puta uvecani. Kaze da se svi ljudi koji se po dolasku u bolnicu pokazu pozitivni automatski pisu kao na lijecenju od Korone. Znaci ti dodjes sa srcanim udarom oni te testiraju, pozitivan i automatski ides u staristiku osoba koje su na bolnickom ljecenji iako nemas nikakve simptome. Takodje svi iz starackih domova koji su pozitivni sa ili bez simptoma se vode kao da su na ljecenju
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Koliko će Njemačka platiti žrtvama genocida: genocid u Namibiji

Post by Doris » 03 Apr 2021, 17:47

Tamne stranice njemačke kolonijalne prošlosti, 31.07.2018.

Izvor: https://www.dw.com/hr/tamne-stranice-nj ... a-44891946

„Herero više nisu njemački podanici (…). Unutar njemačkih granica će svaki Herero – s oružjem ili bez njega, sa stokom ili bez nje – biti odstrijeljen. Više ne primam žene i djecu, otjerajte ih nazad njihovom narodu i dozvolite da se i na njih puca." To je naredba general-pukovnika Lothara von Trothe koji je 1904. godine poslat da uguši pobunu u koloniji koja se službeno zvala Njemačka jugozapadna Afrika i nalazila na prostoru današnje Namibije. Trotha je eksplicitno rekao da je neophodno „uništiti naciju kao takvu" i u tome je imao podršku cara Wilhelma II.

Njemačka zataškava što može

Pripadnici naroda Herero i Nama, koji su se pridružili ustanku, sustavno su odsijecani od izvora vode, ubijani, izgladnjivani u koncentracijskim logorima, do smrti iscrpljivani fizičkim radom. Tako je ubijeno oko 100.000 ljudi. Ovaj zločin se smatra prvim genocidom u 20. stoljeću. Sramnu epizodu svoje povijesti Njemačka je dugo odbijala nazvati pravim imenom. Ni danas to ne čini jasno i glasno, insistirajući na tumačenju da genocidom mogu biti proglašeni samo masakri počinjeni nakon što je na snagu stupila Konvencija UN-a o genocidu 1951. No, 2016. je u jednom službenom dokumentu berlinskog Ministarstva vanjskih poslova navedeno da zločin u Namibiji može biti nazvan genocidom. Vlada je pojasnila da se tu radi o pojmu u „povijesno-političkoj raspravi", ali ne i u „pravnom smislu".

Namibija tako do danas nije dobila nikakvu odštetu. O tome vlade Njemačke i Namibije vode tajne pregovore. Većina medija u Namibiji zato više špekulira o tome nego što prenosi pouzdane informacije. Tako se piše da će se Namibija odreći odštetnih zahtjeva zbog genocida, a da će Njemačka zauzvrat plaćati toj zemlji velike iznose za razvojnu pomoć. Obje vlade to demantiraju.

Veleposlaniku je prekipjelo

Danas nije tako ugodno biti njemački veleposlanik u Namibiji. To je trenutno Christian Schlaga koji je u diplomatskim misijama već 30 godina (bio je, između ostalog, i veleposlanik u SAD-u i Portugalu), i koji je prije nekoliko tjedana, nimalo diplomatskim rječnikom, prenio da je sve češće cilj verbalnih napada, da ga vrijeđaju i nazivaju raznim pogrdnim imenima i da je to već postalo nepodnošljivo.

Bijes namibijske vlade je lakše razumjeti ako se ima u vidu da Namibija od vlade u Berlinu do danas nije dobila ni ispriku zbog genocida, a kamoli odštetu. „Narod gubi strpljenje", rekao je Maximilian Weylandt s namibijskog Instituta za istraživanje javne politike (IPPR): „Nakon više od dvije godine pregovora još nema rezultata, a neki ljudi se pitaju pregovara li Njemačka zaista s dobrom voljom i je li spremna saslušati kakve su potrebe Namibijaca." Prema posljednjim anketama, dvije trećine Namibijaca zahtijeva da Njemačka plati odštetu.

Plemenske starješine vrše pritisak

Pri tome anketa IPPR-a pokazuje da je manje od 50 posto ispitanih građana zadovoljno načinom na koji njihova vlada vodi pregovore – iako o tim pregovorima može saznati uglavnom samo nepouzdane informacije medija ili oporbe. Tradicionalne starješine naroda Herero i Nama smatraju da je vlada u Windhoeku suviše meka prema Berlinu. Te starješine ne sudjeluju u pregovorima i zato bi se za svoje sudjelovanje htjele izboriti sudskim putem – o tome će odlučivati sud u New Yorku. Njemačka je uložila prigovor na zahtjev plemenskih starješina.

Predvodnik njemačkog pregovaračkog tima, demokršćanski političar Ruprecht Polenz rekao je kako „je u interesu njemačke vlade da što prije okonča pregovore", ali priznaje i kako „je važno da rezultate pregovora ne prihvati samo namibijska vlada, već i narod". On prenosi i da je angažirana posebna radna skupina koja radi na formuliranju njemačke isprike i „planiranju projekata koji će biti ponuđeni posebno pogođenim skupinama stanovništva."
Germany and Namibia: What's the right price to pay for genocide?
April 2021

Izvor: https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-56583994

A deal that could set a precedent for former colonies all around the world is being thrashed out between Germany and Namibia, to heal the wounds of what's now widely regarded as a genocide by colonial forces. But how do you make up for destroying an entire society? In Namibia, descendants of both victims and colonisers are arguing fiercely about the talks.

"Along this whole beach, there was a concentration camp," says Laidlaw Peringanda. "The barbed wire ran where you see the car park today."

The artist and social activist is pointing past a row of open-air cafes and a children's playground on the promenade in Swakopmund, Namibia's main seaside resort, where the cold breakers of the Atlantic crash against the edge of the Namib Desert.

"My great-grandmother told me some of our family were brought here and forced to work, and they died."

He's talking about the years 1904-1908, when present-day Namibia was the German colony of South West Africa. Tens of thousands died as colonial forces brutally suppressed uprisings by two of the main peoples of the country, the Herero and Nama, killing many and driving others into a desert (the Omaheke Desert in the east of the country) where many starved to death. Survivors ended up in camps where they were used as slave labour, dying of cold, malnutrition, exhaustion and violence. As many as 65,000 of the 80,000 Herero living in German South West Africa at the start of colonial rule are estimated to have perished, as well as perhaps 10,000 of an estimated 20,000 Nama.

Since 2015, when Germany formally acknowledged that the atrocities constituted genocide, it has been negotiating a restorative justice deal with Namibia that will set a global precedent. Never before has a former colonial power sat down with a former colony in this way to work out a comprehensive agreement about the legacy of the past.


Germany has said it will make a formal apology - though the wording is still to be worked out. But the bigger question for Namibians is what form any material compensation will take.

Laidlaw Peringanda, like most Hereros, is in no doubt about what he wants from the talks - a massive financial deal that will help restore his people to the prosperity he believes they enjoyed, as cattle-herders, before the genocide. Afterwards, most of their land was split into private farms for German settlers. And today most Herero and Nama live either on small overcrowded areas of communal land that were later allocated to them, or in towns - many in the "informal settlements" or shanty towns that house 40% of Namibia's people.

In Swakopmund, there's a massive social gulf between the pretty, colonial-era town centre with its pastel-painted gabled buildings - home still to many grandchildren and great-grandchildren of the original colonists - and the shacks cobbled together from planks and metal sheeting that extend for miles to the north.

"They don't have flushing toilets, they don't have drinkable water, there's no electricity," Laidlaw says.

"Some of the people living there, they are descendants of the victims of the concentration camps. It's really unfair what is happening.

"Germany must buy back our ancestral land."

The hope is that the German government will fund a land reform programme to enable farms to be bought from German Namibian farmers, and distributed to Herero and Nama.

German Namibians are believed to be the biggest group among the white farmers who own about 70% of the country's farmland, and some of their holdings are vast - one covers 400 sq miles.

How realistic is this? Namibia's chief negotiator, Dr Zed Ngavirue, says Germany has "acknowledged they need to do something to help us reconstruct our society" and agreed to provide some money - as part of a wider agreement - to buy up land from willing sellers.

But he adds: "I couldn't try and fool myself that the land issue will be solved by Germany. It's not loss of land as a result of German colonisation only."

Many more white settlers arrived after Germany lost its colony in World War One, and South West Africa came to be ruled by South Africa for 70 years. And since independence in 1990 land has been bought both by black Namibians and by foreigners.

The German government refuses to use the word "reparations" but Zed Ngavirue says other practical projects being discussed include possible German help with health, education, housing and water desalination. He says the talks are too delicate to name any sums yet.

As for the German side, it declines to say anything publicly about the progress of the talks.

Short presentational grey line
After six years without a result, Laidlaw is one of many Herero and Nama growing increasingly impatient.

He argues that Germany should be talking not just to the Namibian government, but also directly to Herero and Nama leaders, such as Herero paramount chief Vekuii Rukoro, who has attempted to sue Germany for compensation in the US courts, so far without success. The fear is that any benefits from a government-to-government deal may go partly to communities that never suffered in the genocide, such as the Ovambo, now Namibia's largest ethnic group.

Chief Rukoro's adviser Festus Mundjuua says the government wants "to put their hands on the cash because they have their own projects for which they have no money". That's denied by the government, which says any funds will be managed by affected communities.

But it's not just victims' descendants who are sceptical about the talks. So too are some of Namibia's remaining 30,000 or so German speakers, descendants of the colonists.

"The genocide myth is nothing more than moral blackmail," says historian Dr Andreas Vogt. Like many German-Namibians, he argues that the infamous "extermination order" signed by the commander of the colonial forces, Gen Lothar von Trotha, in 1904, saying that "any Herero found inside the German frontier, with or without a gun or cattle, will be executed", was not state policy and was never implemented.

"The portrayal of - on the one side - a genocidal, brutal and unforgiving German colonial authority, and on the other, the pristine and completely innocent Herero people is tainted. It takes two parties to tango," Vogt says.

He and many other German Namibians point out that the Herero rebelled against German rule in 1904 - killing about 120 German settlers - but were then defeated at the decisive Battle of Waterberg.


Last year a German-Namibian who served as a government minister shortly after independence, Anton von Wietersheim, helped launch an initiative to encourage German-speaking Namibians to discuss the past, both among themselves and together with Herero and Nama representatives, though plans for a conference of German-Namibians have been delayed because of Covid-19.

"The realisation has still to come to many of our white compatriots about what situation these affected people are actually in as a result of the historic happenings," he says.

Von Wietersheim believes that if German-Namibians back the genocide talks it will encourage Germany to reach a deal, which Namibia is keen to conclude before German elections in September.

German-Namibian academic and activist Henning Melber, who has studied the background to the talks, believes other former colonial powers in Europe have privately expressed concerns to Germany that an agreement with Namibia might set off an avalanche of claims against various colonisers by nations in Africa, south-east Asia and elsewhere.

Tanzania, the successor to another former German colony, Tanganyika, is already demanding reparations for atrocities, and potentially other former colonies could follow suit.

But Melber says: "I think Germany would be flexible about the amount it could offer, if it had some guarantee that (the deal) would close the chapter once and for all. The issue is to avoid a precedent with wide implications."

For his part, Zed Ngavirue, a veteran diplomat, avoids any promises about what can be achieved.

"Politics is the art of the possible," he says with a smile.

But in the squalid slums outside Swakopmund, where some Herero work today on minimum wages for the descendants of Germans who used their great-grandparents as slaves, there's not the same understanding.

"Young people, some of them are fed up, they want to take the land by force," Laidlaw Peringanda says. "So maybe the German government should not play hide and seek with us."

Descendants of West African slaves in South Carolina are fighting to prevent their land from being confiscated and auctioned. Can they save a traditional way of life that has survived for the one and half centuries since emancipation?

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Post by Krokodil Behko » 03 Apr 2021, 21:27

Ne bi im bilo loše, da ih ovi sadašnji Nijemci okupiraju.
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Post by Duminjo » 13 Apr 2021, 15:02

PRED Višim pokrajinskim sudom u Stuttgartu danas je započeo proces protiv dvanaestorice pripadnika ekstremno desne terorističke skupine Grupa S., koje se po optužnici sumnjiči za pripremu terorističkih napada na političare i objekte poput džamija.

Prema optužnici, Grupa S., okupljena oko vođe skupine Wernera S., po kojem je dobila naziv, osnovana je s ciljem podrivanja i rušenja ustavnog poretka SR Njemačke.

Kako nadalje stoji u optužnici, optuženi su planirali napade na političare i objekte povezane sa životom stranaca, poput džamija, i to sa svrhom izazivanja "stanja sličnog građanskom ratu".

Optuženi dolaze is svih dijelova Njemačke i pripadaju različitim starosnim i strukovnim grupama, a skupina djeluje od 2019.

Uhićeni su početkom prošle godine nakon što su vlasti, prateći njihovu komunikaciju preko Telegrama, stekle spoznaje o planovima za nabavku oružja, čime se moglo naslutiti skorašnje izvršenje napada.

Proces se, uz jake mjere osiguranja, održava u sudskoj dvorani zatvora Stammheim.



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Post by Krokodil Behko » 22 Apr 2021, 09:17

Nije isključeno, da će nova kancelarka doći iz "zelenih"
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Post by Hurija » 22 Apr 2021, 10:22

Krokodil Behko wrote: 22 Apr 2021, 09:17 Nije isključeno, da će nova kancelarka doći iz "zelenih"

Vidi naziva ,moram malo .


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Krokodil Behko wrote: 22 Apr 2021, 09:17 Nije isključeno, da će nova kancelarka doći iz "zelenih"
Nadam se da hoce.
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Julia-Klara wrote: 22 Apr 2021, 10:28
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Nadam se da hoce.
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Vidjeh negdje da hoce ogranicenje na autoputu staviti na 130..

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Post by insomnia » 23 Apr 2021, 17:54

Nema. Tacno ti mores biti kancelar al dzaba opet ostajes sugavi stranac. Dok ne talasas dobro i jeste e al kad prvi put istupis iz sure.
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Post by Krokodil Behko » 27 Apr 2021, 10:21

DOSTA JE BILO BRUTALNE POLITIKE MOĆI: Nasljednica Angele Merkel želi čvršću poziciju prema Kini i Rusiji


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Analena Berbok, kandidatkinja Zelenih za poziciju kancelarke, rekla je za sedmičnik "Frankfurter Algemeine Sontagzeitung" da bi Evropa trebalo da iskoristi svoju ekonomsku moć da blokira kinesku robu, proizvedenu prisilnim radom, i izbjegne komunikacijske tehnologije koje ugrožavaju evropsku sigurnost.

"Trenutno smo u konkurenciji između sistema autoritarne moći naspram liberalnih demokratija", rekla je ona u intervjuu objavljenom u nedjelju.

Berbok je ulaganje Kine u infrastrukturu i energetske mreže kroz centralnu Aziju do Evrope navela kao "brutalnu politiku moći".

"Mi, Evropljani, ne smijemo da se zavaravamo", rekla je, dodavši da Evropska unija sa 27 država treba da djeluje u skladu s odbranom svojih vrijednosti, naprimjer korištenjem nedavnog sporazuma o ulaganju između Bruxellesa i Pekinga da bi se snažnije pozabavila pitanjem Kine, koja svoju ujgursku manjinu stavlja na prisilni rad.

Berbok, koja je diplomirala međunarodno pravo, u intervjuu je, također, ciljala Rusiju, posebno njenu podršku pobunjeničkim grupama u Ukrajini i nedavno nagomilavanje ruskih trupa duž ukrajinske granice.



Podržala je pravo Ukrajine da se prijavi za članstvo u NATO-u i EU, ali je rekla da je "trenutno najvažnije povećati pritisak na Rusiju kako bi se poštovao sporazum iz Minska". Tim sporazumom nastoji se mirnim putem okončati sukob na istoku Ukrajine sa pobunjenicima koje podržava Rusija, a koji je od 2014. za sobom ostavio najmanje 14.000 mrtvih.

U pozadini agresivnog ponašanja Moskve, Berbok je kritikovala podršku njemačke vlade podvodnom cjevovodu koji ruski prirodni gas dovodi u Njemačku.

"Odavno bih povukla političku podršku Sjevernom toku 2", rekla je.

Zeleni su pozvali na bližu saradnju sa Sjedinjenim Državama u odbrani liberalnih vrijednosti širom svijeta, ali Berbok je predložila da se preispita cilj da članice NATO-a potroše dva odsto svog bruto domaćeg proizvoda na odbranu u svjetlu hitne potrebe za investiranjem velike sume novca za suzbijanje klimatskih promjena. Također je sugerisala da bi doprinos Evrope u odbrani mogao biti u vidu centra za cyber sigurnost.

"S druge strane, opšti cilj od dva odsto neće osigurati veću sigurnost", rekla je ona.



Zeleni su nastali iz pacifističkih i ekoloških pokreta 1970-ih i 1980-ih, ali su posljednjih godina podržali ograničena vojna raspoređivanja u inostranstvu, pod uslovom da su vezani za rezolucije Ujedinjenih nacija.

Berbok je rekla da bi pitanje budućnosti nuklearnog oružja Sjedinjenih Država, stacioniranog u Evropi, moglo ponovo da bude podignuto u okviru pregovora o razoružanju između Moskve i Washingtona.

Anketa koju je u nedjelju objavio nedeljnik "Bild am Sonntag" stavila je Zelene tijesno ispred bloka unije desnog centra Angele Merkel.

Nijemci će 26. septembra birati novi parlament koji će potom glasati ko treba da postane sljedeći kancelar zemlje. Merkelova se neće kandidovati za peti mandat.

Istraživanje koje je provela agencija "Kantar", pokazalo je da 28 odsto ispitanika planira da glasa za Zelene, a 27 odsto za blok Unije. Očekuje se da će socijaldemokrate lijevog centra dobiti oko 13 odsto podrške, dok bi krajnje desničarska Alternativa za Njemačku dobila 10 odsto.

Anketa u kojoj je učestvovalo 1.225 birača, pokazala je da slobodne demokrate mogu da dobiju devet odsto, a stranka Ljevica sedam odsto glasova.
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Post by Duminjo » 27 Apr 2021, 12:30

Pazi zelene sto obecava. Ona bi kineze i ruse pod šapu. A vec se predstavlja kao da je cijela Evropa njena.

Melodija na koju mnogi svršavaju :valja

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Post by insomnia » 27 Apr 2021, 12:39

Opa. Zelena desnica bejbe. To mi radi
Iskustvo mi je pomoglo da u sebi nađem balans
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Re: NJEMAČKA

Post by Duminjo » 27 Apr 2021, 12:49

Izgleda da migranti dolaze na naplatu

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