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Re: Preporuke građanima za prevenciju korona virusa i HITNI BROJEVI

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uvijek_kontra wrote: 17 Mar 2020, 02:34
greeneyes wrote: 16 Mar 2020, 22:59 Ja cu se samo brufenima lupati. Ne idem u bolnicu nema sanse. Sta cu dole kad nema interneta
Ako je vjerovat vijestima, brufen je najlosiji moguci izbor ako obolis. Treba birat paracetamol, aspirin i sl.
Cuj to. Meni je inace brufen tito za sve..
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rocko wrote: 17 Mar 2020, 07:08 Koja praksa? daj mi naucno istrazivacki rad koji kaze nije dobar ibuprofen a mozda je to vezano sa faktom da je ibuprofena nema u francuskoj u slobodnoj prodaji,

Odakle ti znas da je ne tretiram pacijente sa Covid-19 ? Ili ti zapar usi sto ja upita Iskru jel to ono okrenu se usta od mokre kose? Nije ba medicina tako teska za zavrsit
Pa pitam te... Nisam ja to čuo ni od iskre (kad već spuštaš na osobni nivo ovo) ni prvi put iz francuske, nego se i ovdje to spominje danima u izvješćima... A u sloveniji je u slobodnoj prodaji. Čisto sumnjam, da bi se tek tako istrcavalo s tim podatkom. Sve farmacevtske kompanije proizvode neki brufen.
Rekoh, referiraju se na pogoršanja stanja, to je sve što ja mogu znati, ako doktori kažu.
Eto čekam sad tvoj naučni rad, i istraživanje, ili trolas samo.
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Re: Korona virus

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Ja svakako brufen ne mogu piti, srce mi poludi od njega 🤗
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lejlamo wrote: 17 Mar 2020, 07:19 Ja svakako brufen ne mogu piti, srce mi poludi od njega 🤗
Svakako se ne preporucuje piti kad si zaljubljen :ble
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storm wrote: 17 Mar 2020, 07:15
rocko wrote: 17 Mar 2020, 07:08 Koja praksa? daj mi naucno istrazivacki rad koji kaze nije dobar ibuprofen a mozda je to vezano sa faktom da je ibuprofena nema u francuskoj u slobodnoj prodaji,

Odakle ti znas da je ne tretiram pacijente sa Covid-19 ? Ili ti zapar usi sto ja upita Iskru jel to ono okrenu se usta od mokre kose? Nije ba medicina tako teska za zavrsit
Pa pitam te... Nisam ja to čuo ni od iskre (kad već spuštaš na osobni nivo ovo) ni prvi put iz francuske, nego se i ovdje to spominje danima u izvješćima... A u sloveniji je u slobodnoj prodaji. Čisto sumnjam, da bi se tek tako istrcavalo s tim podatkom. Sve farmacevtske kompanije proizvode neki brufen.
Rekoh, referiraju se na pogoršanja stanja, to je sve što ja mogu znati, ako doktori kažu.
Eto čekam sad tvoj naučni rad, i istraživanje, ili trolas samo.
Ja sam rekao ili je zbog velikog broja pacijenata koji su u rizicnoj grupi koji imaju problema sa cardio vascular system, pa samim tim je opasan za njih ili je do reakcije sa ACE koje opet vecina starijh ljudi redovno uzima.

Ako je vjeovat Uvjek Kontra taj Francuz je savjetovao da se uzima Aspirin. a Aspirin i invasive procedures ne ide zajedno a tek Aspirin i viralna infekcija i moguce poslijedice kod djece Reye's Syndrom to ti je dovoljno do ubije sav kredibilitet koji je imao.

Procitaj svoj post pa se upitaj ko je poceo sa ad hominem
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Appropriate use of ibuprofen and paracetamol is still currently being recommended by most European health authorities as part of the symptomatic treatment of COVID-19."
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:hm ja tablete ne pijem, u zadnjih 8-9 godina, možda 2-3 uzela, i od toga jedan kafetin me obunao i uspavao. :lupa
Malecka je skoro imala upalicu grla, prebobala je bez paracetamola i antibotika.
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As of now, there is no set treatment for coronavirus. Instead, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) recommends doing “supportive care to help relieve symptoms,” which can include taking medication to reduce a fever.

Richard Watkins, MD, an infectious disease physician in Akron, Ohio, and an associate professor of internal medicine at Northeast Ohio Medical University says he won't be advising patients to stop taking ibuprofen. “I would not advise people to avoid anti-inflammatories,” says Dr. Watkins, adding, “there is a lot of bad advice and misinformation spreading around.”

Anti-inflammatory medications are recommended “all the time” for other viral illnesses “and COVID-19 is another respiratory virus,” Dr. Watkins says. “The big issue with COVID-19 is people haven’t been exposed to it. Plus, there is no specific treatment or vaccine,” he says.

Dr. Amy Edwards, pediatric infectious disease specialist and associate medical director for infection control at University Hospitals Rainbow Babies and Children’s Hospital, also told Cleveland.com that there is not enough data to advise people against taking ibuprofen at this time.

Meanwhile Muge Cevik, a researcher at the University of St Andrews Infection and Global Health Division, said on Twitter: "Deeply concerned about this bold statement. There's no scientific evidence I am aware of that ibuprofen [causes worse] outcomes in #COVID19."

Deeply concerned about this bold statement by the French MoH with no reference to the claim, which is causing public concern. There’s no scientific evidence I am aware of that ibuprofen cause worst outcomes in #COVID19. pic.twitter.com/gpCGpF4N0D

— dr muge cevik (@mugecevik) March 14, 2020
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Re: Korona virus

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rocko wrote: 17 Mar 2020, 07:33
storm wrote: 17 Mar 2020, 07:15

Pa pitam te... Nisam ja to čuo ni od iskre (kad već spuštaš na osobni nivo ovo) ni prvi put iz francuske, nego se i ovdje to spominje danima u izvješćima... A u sloveniji je u slobodnoj prodaji. Čisto sumnjam, da bi se tek tako istrcavalo s tim podatkom. Sve farmacevtske kompanije proizvode neki brufen.
Rekoh, referiraju se na pogoršanja stanja, to je sve što ja mogu znati, ako doktori kažu.
Eto čekam sad tvoj naučni rad, i istraživanje, ili trolas samo.
Ja sam rekao ili je zbog velikog broja pacijenata koji su u rizicnoj grupi koji imaju problema sa cardio vascular system, pa samim tim je opasan za njih ili je do reakcije sa ACE koje opet vecina starijh ljudi redovno uzima.

Ako je vjeovat Uvjek Kontra taj Francuz je savjetovao da se uzima Aspirin. a Aspirin i invasive procedures ne ide zajedno a tek Aspirin i viralna infekcija i moguce poslijedice kod djece Reye's Syndrom to ti je dovoljno do ubije sav kredibilitet koji je imao.

Procitaj svoj post pa se upitaj ko je poceo sa ad hominem
Nista ti ja to ne znam, ni izbliza mi nije struka.
Umijesao sam se u dijelu, gdje tvrdis, kako je to "izmislio" francuski ministar, iz kojekakvih razloga, sa opaskom, da se i ovdje tako tretira, da i ovdje doktori donose iste zaključke.
Pa ako oni tako kažu, ostaje mi vjerovati.
Ti tvrdis, kako mi se čini, suprotno, pa eto... Uvjeri me nekim dokazom, nešto...
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Procitaj predhodni post

Meanwhile Muge Cevik, a researcher at the University of St Andrews Infection and Global Health Division, said on Twitter: "Deeply concerned about this bold statement. There's no scientific evidence I am aware of that ibuprofen [causes worse] outcomes in #COVID19."

Deeply concerned about this bold statement by the French MoH with no reference to the claim, which is causing public concern. There’s no scientific evidence I am aware of that ibuprofen cause worst outcomes in #COVID19. pic.twitter.com/gpCGpF4N0D

— dr muge cevik (@mugecevik) March 14, 2020
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Kao sto reko jedino objasnjenje je da je tylenol ima manje drug to drug contraindications od ibuprofena kada dodje do starijh ljudi, operativna rijec starija populacija.
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Kina je u utorak objavila 21 novi slučaj zaraze koronavirusom, ali samo je jedan nastao u zemlji, i to u provinciji Hubei, epicentru pandemije. Preostalih 20 slučajeva odnosi se na građane koji su se vratili u Kinu iz inozemstva, objavila je Nacionalna zdravstvena komisija.
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rocko wrote: 17 Mar 2020, 07:45 As of now, there is no set treatment for coronavirus. Instead, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) recommends doing “supportive care to help relieve symptoms,” which can include taking medication to reduce a fever.

Richard Watkins, MD, an infectious disease physician in Akron, Ohio, and an associate professor of internal medicine at Northeast Ohio Medical University says he won't be advising patients to stop taking ibuprofen. “I would not advise people to avoid anti-inflammatories,” says Dr. Watkins, adding, “there is a lot of bad advice and misinformation spreading around.”

Anti-inflammatory medications are recommended “all the time” for other viral illnesses “and COVID-19 is another respiratory virus,” Dr. Watkins says. “The big issue with COVID-19 is people haven’t been exposed to it. Plus, there is no specific treatment or vaccine,” he says.

Dr. Amy Edwards, pediatric infectious disease specialist and associate medical director for infection control at University Hospitals Rainbow Babies and Children’s Hospital, also told Cleveland.com that there is not enough data to advise people against taking ibuprofen at this time.

Meanwhile Muge Cevik, a researcher at the University of St Andrews Infection and Global Health Division, said on Twitter: "Deeply concerned about this bold statement. There's no scientific evidence I am aware of that ibuprofen [causes worse] outcomes in #COVID19."

Deeply concerned about this bold statement by the French MoH with no reference to the claim, which is causing public concern. There’s no scientific evidence I am aware of that ibuprofen cause worst outcomes in #COVID19. pic.twitter.com/gpCGpF4N0D

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Čupava wrote: 17 Mar 2020, 07:51
Kina je u utorak objavila 21 novi slučaj zaraze koronavirusom, ali samo je jedan nastao u zemlji, i to u provinciji Hubei, epicentru pandemije. Preostalih 20 slučajeva odnosi se na građane koji su se vratili u Kinu iz inozemstva, objavila je Nacionalna zdravstvena komisija.
Sad imaju dvije strains L i S i S je orginalna blaza verzija od L koji je mnogo agresivniji i odgovoran za pandemic.
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storm wrote: 17 Mar 2020, 07:52
rocko wrote: 17 Mar 2020, 07:45 As of now, there is no set treatment for coronavirus. Instead, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) recommends doing “supportive care to help relieve symptoms,” which can include taking medication to reduce a fever.

Richard Watkins, MD, an infectious disease physician in Akron, Ohio, and an associate professor of internal medicine at Northeast Ohio Medical University says he won't be advising patients to stop taking ibuprofen. “I would not advise people to avoid anti-inflammatories,” says Dr. Watkins, adding, “there is a lot of bad advice and misinformation spreading around.”

Anti-inflammatory medications are recommended “all the time” for other viral illnesses “and COVID-19 is another respiratory virus,” Dr. Watkins says. “The big issue with COVID-19 is people haven’t been exposed to it. Plus, there is no specific treatment or vaccine,” he says.

Dr. Amy Edwards, pediatric infectious disease specialist and associate medical director for infection control at University Hospitals Rainbow Babies and Children’s Hospital, also told Cleveland.com that there is not enough data to advise people against taking ibuprofen at this time.

Meanwhile Muge Cevik, a researcher at the University of St Andrews Infection and Global Health Division, said on Twitter: "Deeply concerned about this bold statement. There's no scientific evidence I am aware of that ibuprofen [causes worse] outcomes in #COVID19."

Deeply concerned about this bold statement by the French MoH with no reference to the claim, which is causing public concern. There’s no scientific evidence I am aware of that ibuprofen cause worst outcomes in #COVID19. pic.twitter.com/gpCGpF4N0D

— dr muge cevik (@mugecevik) March 14, 2020
Nista nije napisano... Tek skepsa, a znamo svi skupa - ništa.
To svo vrijeme govorim nema on nikakvih zvanicnih podataka da potkrijepi svoju tvrdnju a najveci je problem kad neko ko se smatra autoritetom ko francuski ministar zdravlja siri dezinformacije.

Zaboravih ti reci nije mi ni nakraj pameti da tebi dokazujem ista sto se mene tice mozes i Torabijevom vodom protiv korone.
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Dorian wrote: 16 Mar 2020, 20:56
KOMESAR wrote: 16 Mar 2020, 20:55 Ako vas je strah,a vidim po broju stranica da jeste, još uvijek rade prodavnice u kojima možete kupiti štrik
Ne prihvatam savjete od ljudi koji nisu spremni da ih sami provedu.
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rocko wrote: 17 Mar 2020, 07:56
storm wrote: 17 Mar 2020, 07:52

Nista nije napisano... Tek skepsa, a znamo svi skupa - ništa.
To svo vrijeme govorim nema on nikakvih zvanicnih podataka da potkrijepi svoju tvrdnju a najveci je problem kad neko ko se smatra autoritetom ko francuski ministar zdravlja siri dezinformacije.
Zadnja, boldana rečenica, bode u oči.

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Ako imate novac u bankama i jastucima za koji mjesec to će biti obična hartija.
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There’s no scientific evidence I am aware of that ibuprofen causes worst outcomes in #COVID19.

To je zadnja boldana recenica. Sta tu nije jasno?
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Snowie wrote: 17 Mar 2020, 08:05 There’s no scientific evidence I am aware of that ibuprofen causes worst outcomes in #COVID19.

To je zadnja boldana recenica. Sta tu nije jasno?
Meni jest... Pitaj donositelja navedenog :oo
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