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Re: Korona virus

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rocko wrote: 06 Apr 2020, 17:32
Krokodil Behko wrote: 06 Apr 2020, 09:51 Image
Moglo bi se reci pocne sa ignorsanjem predsjednika u ovom slucaju.

Da li znas cije ovo govor i kad?

"At this moment there is no pandemic influenza in the United States or the world, but if history is our guide there's reason to be concerned. In the last century, our country and the world have been hit by three influenza pandemics, and viruses from birds contributed to all of them.It's my responsibility as the president to take measures now to protect the American people from the possible that human-to-human transmission may occur. So several months ago I directed all relevant departments and agencies in the federal government to take steps to address the threat of avian and pandemic flu.

Since that time, my administration has developed a comprehensive national strategy, with concrete measures we can take to prepare for influenza pandemic. Today, I'm announcing key elements of that strategy.

Our strategy is designed to meet three critical goals: first, we must detect outbreaks that occur anywhere in the world; second, we must protect the American people by stockpiling vaccines and antiviral drugs, and improve our ability to rapidly produce new vaccines against a pandemic strain; and third, we must be ready to respond at the federal, state and local levels in the event that a pandemic reaches our shores.

To meet these three goals, our strategy will require the combined efforts of government officials in public health and medical, veterinary and law enforcement communities and the private sector.

It will require the active participation of the American people.

And it will require the immediate attention of the United States Congress so we can have the resources in place to begin implementing this strategy right away.

The first part of our strategy is to detect outbreaks before they spread across the world. In the fight against avian and pandemic flu, early detection is our first line of defense.

A pandemic is a lot like a forest fire: If caught early it might be extinguished with limited damage; if allowed to smolder undetected it can grow to an inferno that spreads quickly beyond our ability to control it.

So we're taking immediate steps to ensure early warning of an avian or pandemic flu outbreak among animals or humans anywhere in the world.

In September at the United Nations, I announced a new international partnership on avian and pandemic influenza, a global network of surveillance and preparedness that will help us to detect and respond quickly to any outbreaks of the disease.

The partnership requires participating countries that face an outbreak to immediately share information and provide samples to the World Health Organization.

By requiring transparency, we can respond more rapidly to dangerous outbreaks.

Since we announced this global initiative, the response from across the world has been very positive. Already 88 countries and nine international organizations have joined the effort.

Senior officials from participating governments recently convened the partnership's first meeting here in Washington.

Together, we're working to control and monitor avian flu in Asia and to ensure that all nations have structures in place to recognize and report outbreaks before they spread beyond human control.

I've requested $251 million from Congress to help our foreign partners train local medical personnel, expand their surveillance and testing capacity, draw up preparedness plans, and take other vital actions to detect and contain outbreaks.

A flu pandemic would have global consequences, so no nation can afford to ignore this threat, and every nation has responsibilities to detect and stop its spread.

Here in the United States we're doing our part. To strengthen domestic surveillance, my administration is launching the National Biosurveillance Initiative. This initiative will help us rapidly detect, quantify and respond to outbreaks of disease in humans and animals, and deliver information quickly to state and local and national and international public health officials.

By creating systems that provide continuous situational awareness, we're more likely to be able to stop, slow or limit the spread of a pandemic and save American lives.

The second part of our strategy is to protect the American people by stockpiling vaccines and antiviral drugs and accelerating development of new vaccine technologies.

One of the challenges presented by a pandemic is that scientists need a sample of the new strain before they can produce a vaccine against it. This means it is difficult to produce a pandemic vaccine before the pandemic actually appears. And so there may not be a vaccine capable of fully immunizing our citizens from the new influenza virus during the first several months of a pandemic.

To help protect our citizens during these early months, when a fully effective vaccine would not be available, we're taking a number of immediate steps.And I'm asking that the Congress fund $1.2 billion for the Department of Health and Human Services to purchase enough doses of this vaccine for manufacturers to vaccinate 20 million people.

This vaccine would not be a perfect match to the pandemic flu because the pandemic strain would probably differ somewhat from the avian flu virus it grew from. But a vaccine against the current avian flu virus would likely offer some protection against a pandemic strain and possibly save many lives in the first critical months of an outbreak.

We're also increasing stockpiles of antiviral drugs, such as Tamiflu and Relenza. Antiviral drugs cannot prevent people from contracting the flu, but they can reduce the severity of the illness when taken within 48 hours of getting sick.

So in addition to vaccines, which are the foundation of our pandemic response, I'm asking Congress for $1 billion to stockpile additional antiviral medications so that we have enough on hand to help treat first responders and those on the front lines as well as populations most at risk in the first stages of a pandemic.

To protect the greatest possible number of Americans during a pandemic, the cornerstone of our strategy is to develop new technologies that will allow us to produce new vaccines rapidly.

If a pandemic strikes, our country must have a surge capacity in place that will allow us to bring a new vaccine on-line quickly and manufacture enough to immunize every American against the pandemic strain.

I recently met with leaders of the vaccine industry. They assured me that they will work with the federal government to expand the vaccine industry so that our country is better prepared for any pandemic.I'm asking Congress for $2.8 billion to accelerate development of cell culture technology. By bringing cell culture technology from the research laboratory into the production line, we should be able to produce enough vaccine for every American within six months of the start of a pandemic.

I'm also asking Congress to remove one of the greatest obstaclesto domestic vaccine production: the growing burden of litigation.

In the past three decades, the number of vaccine manufacturers in America has plummeted as the industry has been flooded with lawsuits. Today, there's only one manufacturer in the United States that can produce influenza vaccine. That leaves our nation vulnerable in the event of a pandemic.
To respond to a pandemic we need medical personnel and adequate supplies of equipment. In a pandemic, everything from syringes to hospital beds, respirators, masks and protective equipment would be in short supply.

So the federal government is stockpiling critical supplies in locations across America as part of the Strategic National Stockpile.

The Department of Health and Human Services is helping states create rosters of medical personnel who are willing to help alleviate local shortfalls during a pandemic.There is no pandemic flu in our country or in the world at this time. But if we wait for a pandemic to appear, it will be too late to prepare. And one day many lives could be needlessly lost because we failed to act today.
We must increase the number of vaccine manufacturers in our country and improve our domestic production capacity.
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Re: Korona virus

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Fuddo wrote: 06 Apr 2020, 17:17
rocko wrote: 06 Apr 2020, 17:12

Oni su to tretirali sa ouzo
Rocko, kakve su prognoze iz prve ruke?
Imal kakav serumcic na pomolu, nanu li mu naninu?
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Kad se sve uredno poslozi desi se ovo:

Norveški ministar zdravstva: Epidemija je pod nadzorom
Norveški ministar zdravstva Bent Høie rekao je na konferenciji za novinare da je epidemija korone u Norveškoj pod nadzorom. Jedna osoba zaražena koronavirusom u prosjeku zarazi 0,7 drugih, kaže on. Tako piše NRK.
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Kod nas ko se zarazi nek mu je dragi Bog na pomoci. Ateisti, zalim slucaj


ŠTA SE SVE DEŠAVALO
Supruga preminulog dr. Pašagića: Moj muž je žrtva našeg zdravstvenog sistema, a ne koronavirusa



Elna Pašagić je supruga sinoć preminulog doktora epidemiologa Šefika Pašagića. Nakon smrti supruga, iza kojeg je ostalo četvero maloljetne djece, odlučila je izaći u javnost i za Klix.ba ispričati sve ono što se dešavalo u posljednjih, kobnih, 14 dana.


Na samom početku razgovora govori nam da želi ispričati istinu radi drugih ljudi.

"Kada se ovakvo nešto dogodilo ljekaru koji se cijeli svoj radni vijek od 1987. godine bavio javnim zdravstvom, prevencijom u zdravstvenoj zaštiti i prevencijom zaraznih oboljenja... Šta će se dogoditi nekom penzioneru, nekom čovjeku iz radničke klase", govori nam Elna.

Njen suprug dr. Šefik Pašagić je dobio temperaturu oko 21. marta kada je bio kod kuće.

"Nakon dva dana povišene temperature nazvali smo DZ Vrazova, jer smo prijavljeni tu, ali mjesto prebavališta nam je Novo Sarajevo. Ja sam rekla da je suprug bolestan, a s obzirom na to da je ovakva situacija, mora se prvo pozvati, jer se ne može ići direktno u dom zdravlja. Iz DZ Vrazova su mi rekli da moj suprug treba početi piti antibiotik Klacid. Bez pregleda i bez ikakvih nalaza", ispričala je.

Kaže da je pitala da li je to pametno te da li neko može doći kod njih kući kako bi pregledali dr. Pašagića. Također kaže da je njen suprug bio spreman odmah se testirati na koronavirus kako bi zaštitio sve ostale.

"Rekli su mi da nemaju zaštitne opreme da dođu i uzmu bris, a nemaju ni briseva. Rekla sam da onda neko treba doći, ako on ne može u dom zdravlja, ni u privatnu kliniku. Neko treba doći, ili iz doma zdravlja ili iz Hitne pomoći. Rekli su mi da nazovem Hitnu. U Hitnoj su mi rekli da se javimo Porodičnoj medicini Vrazova. Ponovo zovem Vrazovu, ali mi kažu oni ne mogu izaći jer nemaju zaštitne opreme", prisjeća se Elna.

Pozivi, pozivi, pozivi...


Dr. Šefik Pašagić, kaže njegova supruga, počinje uzimati antibiotik Klacid, ali tempratura mu nije spala ni treći ni četvrti dan.

"Ponovo zovem, a doktorica iz Doma zdravlja Vrazova mi kaže da zovem Dom zdravlja Omer Maslić, jer nam je mjesto prebivališta u Novom Sarajevu. Ja im kažem da je pacijent četvrti dan pod temperaturom te pitam da li je zaista bitno gdje je mjesto prebivališta i da mogu po kartonu naći sve. Zatim zovem DZ Omer Maslić, tu mi dr. Sanja Soldo kaže da je Šefik njen prijatelj i da moramo zvati Epidemiološku službu".

Elna zatim zove Epidemiološku službu gdje joj kažu da su nemoćni, jer oni samo mogu uzeti bris, ali ne mogu tek tako, jer ima procedura.

"Iz Epidemiološke službe Šefika pitaju da li je imao raniji kontakt s nekim ko je zaražen, da li je negdje putovao i slično. Odgovaramo im da ništa od toga nije bilo, ali i da jeste bio s nekim ko je zaražen, možda ne zna, s obzirom na to da svi možemo biti kliconoše.

"Tu nam kažu da nema epidemiološke slike. Ja im kažem da je Šefik epidemiolog i da valjda on zna ima li epidemiološke slike ili ne. Tražili smo da neko dođe, da vide da li antibiotik Klacid djeluje ili ne, jer četvrti dan i dalje ima temperaturu", priča Elna.

Nakon toga ponovo zove DZ Omer Maslić, a tu saznaje da oni nemaju zaštitnu opremu da dođu kući, jer ne znaju je li zaražen.

"Ja sam sutradan, pošto imamo privatnu firmu Sanitacija, poslala u DZ Omer Maslić 4 odijela jednokratna - specijalna. Dan prije su me zvali u Sanitaciju da kao privatna firma damo javnoj ustanovi zaštitna odijela. Zamislite tog zdravstva i te organizacije. Ja sam rekla da ćemo pokloniti odijela, samo neka izađu na teren", kaže Elna.

"Šefik opet sutradan ima temperaturu, opet ja zovem. Na kraju je dr. Sanja Soldo došla kod nas, bez zaštitnog odijela, s maskom i rukavicama, i kako je rekla, došla je jer je Šefik njen prijatelj. Slušalicama ga je pregledala i rekla da nema nikakve upale pluća. Dala je uputnicu da uradi laboratorijske nalaze, ali ne u DZ Omer Maslić, nego u Vrazovoj".

Dani prolaze...


S obzirom na to da je bila subota navečer, prisjeća se, čekali su ponedjeljak.

"Opet zovem Vrazovu, upućuju me u Omer Maslić. Javlja se jedan ljekar i kaže mi da bi oni došli, ali da nemaju zaštitne opreme i ne znaju je li pacijent zaražen. Pitam ih da li oni mogu javiti Epidemiloškoj službi da dođu i uzmu bris", govori naša sagovornica.

Ističe da su dani prolazili u razgovorima, da je Šefik iz dana u dan propadao, a da niko ništa nije poduzimao.

"Došli su 31. marta i uzeli bris. Tu nam je pomogla jedna epidemiologinja iz Zavoda za javno zdravstvo. Rekla je da će izaći na teren, a do tada nisu imali dovoljno testova. Znači, nije bilo testova, a ne da nije bilo epidemiološke slike", zaključuje supruga preminulog doktora Pašagića.

Saznajemo da je dr. Pašagić zvao svoje prijatelje i specijaliste pulmologe koji ne rade na KCUS-u, ali su vrhunski stručnjaci poput prof. dr. Zehre Dizdarević te ih je molio za pomoć.

"Ona mu je rekla da on nije jedini slučaj i da je zovu i drugi pacijenti kojima nije pružena medicinska pomoć odnosno pregled. Također je zvao i pulmologa dr. Hadžimurtezića koji bi u ovakvim situacijama, bez obzira što su u penziji, dali svoj doprinos i dugogodišnje iskustvo u liječenju i zaštiti pacijenata“, govori Elna.

Dolazi 1. april i iz Zavoda za javno zdravstvo porodici Pašagić potvrđuju da je nalaz na koronavirus negativan.

"U međuvremenu smo uradili privatno kompletnu krvnu sliku i tu vidimo da je anemičan, da organizam pada. Epidemiolog mi javlja da podignemo nalaz u DZ Omer Maslić. Tu donosim privatne nalaze da pokažem da je anemija. Ako je negativan nalaz, kako Šefik i dalje ima temperaturu i počinje kašljati, pored antibiotika. Tu mi kažu da se trebam smiriti te da suprugu počnem davati cveklu i špinat, da se poboljša krvna slika. Njemu je željezo bilo 4, a muškarci treba da imaju između 15 i 30. Rekla sam im da je možda bakterijska upala pluća, pitala sam da li to trebam ja njima govoriti", prisjeća se.

Nakon toga je za supruga tražila da mu daju uputnicu za Klinički centar, odnosno za Podhrastove (Klinika za plućne bolesti).

"Tada mi u DZ Omer Maslić kažu da idem u Vrazovu. To sam odbila, jer više nisam mogla razgovarati tako, civilizovano. Zahtijevala sam uputnicu za KCUS bez obzira na to što je nalaz negativan. Napisali su mu uputnicu za Podhrastove, iako sam mislila da će prvo KCUS uraditi analize, pa da oni dalje šalju na Podhrastove", govori Elna.

Nakon toga, kada su dobili negativan nalaz na koronavirus, sa suprugom odlazi u privatnu kliniku Al Tawil gdje radi CTG pluća i ultrazvuk abdomena.

"Dobijamo nalaz da su mu oba plućna krila upaljena i da mu je krvna slika loša. Dolazimo kući, on jedva diše. Zovem Hitnu pomoć da ga prevezu s uputnicom na Podhrastove, jer ne može autom. Dva sata je čekao Hitnu. Dva sata jer su se svađali sa DZ Vrazova i DZ Omer Maslić ko će doći po pacijenta, zato što je uputnica za Podhrastove. Ja dižem paniku, zovem njegove kolege, molim ih da riješe situaciju ili da meni dopuste da ga vozim s obzirom na to da više nemamo vremena".

Nakon dva sata stiže Hitna pomoć, s vozačem i medicinskim tehničarom.

"Tada medicinski tehničar sjeda s vozačem naprijed i ostavlja pacijenta nazad samog i prevoze ga gore. Kada je stigao na Podhrastove, kažu mu da se mora raditi retestiranje na koronavirus. Na drugom testiranju je također bio negativan, po prijemu u Podhrastove. Uz takvu iscrpljenost on sjedi u čekaonici (gdje je izolatorij) od 5 popodne do 12 navečer i čeka nalaz trećeg testa da na osnovu njega odluče da li ide s pacijentima negativnim ili pozitivnim na koronavirus. On tu sjedi na stolici, jedva diše i čeka rezultate. Na kraju ga prebacuju u sobu."

Elna se prisjetila i da su njenom suprugu, kada je stigao u Kliniku za plućne bolesti, kazali da je "zalutao".

"Kada je pitao kako je zalutao, rekli su mu da mu pluća nisu toliko ugrožena i da je test negativan. Ali su ga ostavili jer im je kolega ljekar. A onda je bio negativan na drugom retestiranju, pa pozitivan na trećem retestiranju".

Rezultati trećeg testiranja su stigli ujutru i pokazali da je dr. Šefik Pašagić tada pozitivan na koronavirus.

"To je već 2. april. Bez teraprije i kisika je bio skoro 24 sata. Ja ih kao zdravstveni radnik molim da mu daju terapiju, da mu daju transfuziju krvi, da se malo oporavi jer je iscrpljen. Tu mi kažu da ja ne trebam sugerisati i da se ne miješam, što sam i ispoštovala", kaže Elna i dodaje da su 2. aprila oko 16 sati njenom suprugu uključili terapiju i dali mu kisik.

"Stanje je sve gore bilo, i 3. i 4. aprila s obzirom na to da terapija očito nije djelovala. Pitala sam se da li su pogriješili, da li su trebali reagovati bakterijski lijekovima, da li su tačni testovi da je sada pozitivan..."

Tada mi Šefik javlja da i dalje ima temperaturu, da čeka po tri sata da mu daju paracetamol.

"Zovem gore i pitam zašto čeka na paracetamol, a odgovaraju mi da zbog nedostatka opreme ne mogu ulaziti često kod pacijenata. Ja sam tada ponudila da doniram 200 zaštitnih odijela, ne samo za mog supruga, nego za sve pacijente. Odgovaraju mi da to trebam vidjeti sa šefom za donacije".

Konačno, jučer, 5. aprila, Elna je pozvala Podhrastove i pitala zašto njenom suprugu četiri dana niko nije uradio nalaze krvi.

"Tu mi govore da još nije vrijeme za transfuziju i da se ne trebam miješati. Kažem im da ako će ići na respirator, mora primiti anesteziju, a ne može se primiti anestezija bez ranije urađenih nalaza", priča nam supruga preminulog epidemiologa.

Zašto nisu urađeni nalazi prije anestezije?


"On mi se javlja jučer, oko 15:15 sati, i kaže mi da ide na respirator. Molio me da vidim može li iko pomoći, jer je on toliko pomagao svima, toliko davao... Vidio je da mu niko ništa ne pomaže. Uhvatio ga je strah, bio je svjestan kolapsa u zdravstvu. Pitao me kako će ga uvesti u anesteziju bez nalaza, bez pregleda i analize krvne slike", prepričava nam Elna posljednji razgovor sa suprugom.

Oko 16 sati porodica Pašagić je dobila informaciju da će Šefika oko 16 sati staviti na respirator.

"Čekamo 17 sati da nam jave da li je završena anestezija, intubiranje i stavljanje na respirator. Zovemo nekoliko puta, niko nam se ne javlja. U 18 sati su nam javili da je preselio. Pitam kako je preminuo, a odgovaraju mi da je preminuo kada su mu dali anesteziju. Nisu ga ni stavili na respirator. Kazali su mi da ne mogu vaditi nalaze na tom odjeljenju, a ja sam ih to jutro opominjala da mu urade nalaze i krvnu sliku", ispričala je Elna.

Pred kraj razgovora ističe da je dr. Šefik Pašagić bio zdrav čovjek i da je redovno obavljao preventivne preglede u Zagrebu i Beogradu. Kaže, to može potvrditi, prof. dr. kardiolog Čikeš kao i cijeli njegov tim te radiolog dr. Skyarov iz Zagreba.

"Stalno je napominjao da je zdravstveni sistem BiH izgubio vrhunske ljekara, zato je kao preventivac svoje preglede i preglede svoje obitelji vršio van BiH", dodala je te istakla da se u vrijeme pandemije moralo angažirati posebno medicinsko osoblje koje može odgovoriti svojim iskustvom u praksi i nauci te na osnovu toga biti spremni na liječenje pacijenta u ovakvim okolnostima.

"U praksi pri pružanju medicinske skrbi pacijenata nisu operativni što dokazuje i naš slučaj. Hitna medicinska pomoć i hitni medicinski timovi domova zdravlja ne mogu odgovoriti i nisu spremni. Odgovorno tvrdim", dodala je.

Dr. Pašagić je, kaže njegova supruga, bio sportista, trenirao je i nije imao nikakvih problema.

"On je imao 60 godina, ali srce kao da je sportista od 30 godina, to se može potvrditi. Prof. dr. Šefik je bio poznat po tome da je preventivan, da je vodio zdrav život. I da on, takav čovjek, njima umre, a da ga nisu ni stavili na respirator. Zamislite kada se to desi nekome ko se bori u našem sistemu, stalno je apelovao na deratizaciju, pa kad se korona pojavila... On je molio da ga pregledaju, da mu daju uputnicu. On je zvao svoje kolege da ih pita šta da rade".

Iza Šefika Pašagića ostala je supruga i četvero maloljetne djece. Od 10, 12, 13 i 14 godina. Njegovi roditelji ostali su bez sina.

"Na kraju poručujem da oni koji se boje i nemaju zaštitne opreme – ne trebaju se baviti zdravstvom. Ne možete to raditi ako se bojite, ako nećete da izađete na teren. Neka idu na bolovanje pa da znamo koliko zdravstvenih radnika imamo. Ako ste prihvatili to raditi, morate izaći na teren. U svim zemljama svijeta je omjer oporavljenih i umrlih 4:1. Kod nas čovjek umre kad je zdrav. Pitam i brinem se šta će se desiti s drugima. Strašno", završila je Elna Pašagić uz napomenu da u kriznim štabovima moraju biti stručni ljekari i preventivci koji će adekvatno organizovati medicinske timove da odgovore zadatku kad je najpotrebnije i u pravom trenutku kako se ne bi dešavali propusti.

Članovi Pašagićeve porodice su testirani prije tri dana i rezultati su negativni.

Dr. Šefik Pašagić je bio priznati stručnjak, a o tome govori i činjenica da je bio član Svjetske zdravstvene organizacije za Jugoistočnu Evropu i član epidemiološke komore SAD-a i BiH.
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pasagic je jeo govna, nije htio da se lijeci kod nasih doktora nego iso u bg i zg kod eminentih strucnjaka haha ovi nasi mu nisi boli dobri i sad kad se zarazijo idi rodo kod eminentih strucnjaka
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vila wrote: 06 Apr 2020, 17:32
rocko wrote: 06 Apr 2020, 17:12

Oni su to tretirali sa ouzo
Moze li pitanje...iako je vjerojatno glupo :ooo
Imaju li oboljeli ikakvu specificnu krvnu sliku ili neki lab.nalaz koji bi ukazivao na koronu
Tipa:visoki leukociti-visok crp
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Ista?

Pretpostavljam da nema nista specificno al rekoh vi ste tamo napredniji mozda ste stogod registrirali
Ma svi labs ukazuju na masivnu infekciju ali nista da moze se covjek zaklet da je specificno , i ono sto izgleda kao Eureka momenat nije dovoljno utvrdjeno da bi se moglo reci sa sigurnoscu, sve je bazirano na brisu, labs, pregledu, snimku pluca. Ovo sto je kod mene zavrsilo u bolnici prosjek 78 godina. par starijh par mladjih 2/3 hronicni plucni bolesnici.
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Fuddo wrote: 06 Apr 2020, 17:35
rocko wrote: 06 Apr 2020, 17:32

Moglo bi se reci pocne sa ignorsanjem predsjednika u ovom slucaju.

Da li znas cije ovo govor i kad?

"At this moment there is no pandemic influenza in the United States or the world, but if history is our guide there's reason to be concerned. In the last century, our country and the world have been hit by three influenza pandemics, and viruses from birds contributed to all of them.It's my responsibility as the president to take measures now to protect the American people from the possible that human-to-human transmission may occur. So several months ago I directed all relevant departments and agencies in the federal government to take steps to address the threat of avian and pandemic flu.

Since that time, my administration has developed a comprehensive national strategy, with concrete measures we can take to prepare for influenza pandemic. Today, I'm announcing key elements of that strategy.

Our strategy is designed to meet three critical goals: first, we must detect outbreaks that occur anywhere in the world; second, we must protect the American people by stockpiling vaccines and antiviral drugs, and improve our ability to rapidly produce new vaccines against a pandemic strain; and third, we must be ready to respond at the federal, state and local levels in the event that a pandemic reaches our shores.

To meet these three goals, our strategy will require the combined efforts of government officials in public health and medical, veterinary and law enforcement communities and the private sector.

It will require the active participation of the American people.

And it will require the immediate attention of the United States Congress so we can have the resources in place to begin implementing this strategy right away.

The first part of our strategy is to detect outbreaks before they spread across the world. In the fight against avian and pandemic flu, early detection is our first line of defense.

A pandemic is a lot like a forest fire: If caught early it might be extinguished with limited damage; if allowed to smolder undetected it can grow to an inferno that spreads quickly beyond our ability to control it.

So we're taking immediate steps to ensure early warning of an avian or pandemic flu outbreak among animals or humans anywhere in the world.

In September at the United Nations, I announced a new international partnership on avian and pandemic influenza, a global network of surveillance and preparedness that will help us to detect and respond quickly to any outbreaks of the disease.

The partnership requires participating countries that face an outbreak to immediately share information and provide samples to the World Health Organization.

By requiring transparency, we can respond more rapidly to dangerous outbreaks.

Since we announced this global initiative, the response from across the world has been very positive. Already 88 countries and nine international organizations have joined the effort.

Senior officials from participating governments recently convened the partnership's first meeting here in Washington.

Together, we're working to control and monitor avian flu in Asia and to ensure that all nations have structures in place to recognize and report outbreaks before they spread beyond human control.

I've requested $251 million from Congress to help our foreign partners train local medical personnel, expand their surveillance and testing capacity, draw up preparedness plans, and take other vital actions to detect and contain outbreaks.

A flu pandemic would have global consequences, so no nation can afford to ignore this threat, and every nation has responsibilities to detect and stop its spread.

Here in the United States we're doing our part. To strengthen domestic surveillance, my administration is launching the National Biosurveillance Initiative. This initiative will help us rapidly detect, quantify and respond to outbreaks of disease in humans and animals, and deliver information quickly to state and local and national and international public health officials.

By creating systems that provide continuous situational awareness, we're more likely to be able to stop, slow or limit the spread of a pandemic and save American lives.

The second part of our strategy is to protect the American people by stockpiling vaccines and antiviral drugs and accelerating development of new vaccine technologies.

One of the challenges presented by a pandemic is that scientists need a sample of the new strain before they can produce a vaccine against it. This means it is difficult to produce a pandemic vaccine before the pandemic actually appears. And so there may not be a vaccine capable of fully immunizing our citizens from the new influenza virus during the first several months of a pandemic.

To help protect our citizens during these early months, when a fully effective vaccine would not be available, we're taking a number of immediate steps.And I'm asking that the Congress fund $1.2 billion for the Department of Health and Human Services to purchase enough doses of this vaccine for manufacturers to vaccinate 20 million people.

This vaccine would not be a perfect match to the pandemic flu because the pandemic strain would probably differ somewhat from the avian flu virus it grew from. But a vaccine against the current avian flu virus would likely offer some protection against a pandemic strain and possibly save many lives in the first critical months of an outbreak.

We're also increasing stockpiles of antiviral drugs, such as Tamiflu and Relenza. Antiviral drugs cannot prevent people from contracting the flu, but they can reduce the severity of the illness when taken within 48 hours of getting sick.

So in addition to vaccines, which are the foundation of our pandemic response, I'm asking Congress for $1 billion to stockpile additional antiviral medications so that we have enough on hand to help treat first responders and those on the front lines as well as populations most at risk in the first stages of a pandemic.

To protect the greatest possible number of Americans during a pandemic, the cornerstone of our strategy is to develop new technologies that will allow us to produce new vaccines rapidly.

If a pandemic strikes, our country must have a surge capacity in place that will allow us to bring a new vaccine on-line quickly and manufacture enough to immunize every American against the pandemic strain.

I recently met with leaders of the vaccine industry. They assured me that they will work with the federal government to expand the vaccine industry so that our country is better prepared for any pandemic.I'm asking Congress for $2.8 billion to accelerate development of cell culture technology. By bringing cell culture technology from the research laboratory into the production line, we should be able to produce enough vaccine for every American within six months of the start of a pandemic.

I'm also asking Congress to remove one of the greatest obstaclesto domestic vaccine production: the growing burden of litigation.

In the past three decades, the number of vaccine manufacturers in America has plummeted as the industry has been flooded with lawsuits. Today, there's only one manufacturer in the United States that can produce influenza vaccine. That leaves our nation vulnerable in the event of a pandemic.
To respond to a pandemic we need medical personnel and adequate supplies of equipment. In a pandemic, everything from syringes to hospital beds, respirators, masks and protective equipment would be in short supply.

So the federal government is stockpiling critical supplies in locations across America as part of the Strategic National Stockpile.

The Department of Health and Human Services is helping states create rosters of medical personnel who are willing to help alleviate local shortfalls during a pandemic.There is no pandemic flu in our country or in the world at this time. But if we wait for a pandemic to appear, it will be too late to prepare. And one day many lives could be needlessly lost because we failed to act today.
We must increase the number of vaccine manufacturers in our country and improve our domestic production capacity.
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Hannibal wrote: 06 Apr 2020, 18:05 pasagic je jeo govna, nije htio da se lijeci kod nasih doktora nego iso u bg i zg kod eminentih strucnjaka haha ovi nasi mu nisi boli dobri i sad kad se zarazijo idi rodo kod eminentih strucnjaka
I to znaci da treba covjeka pustit da umre?
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rocko wrote: 06 Apr 2020, 18:08
Fuddo wrote: 06 Apr 2020, 17:35

Obama.
Jok , haj probaj ponovo.
Ovo truNp ne zna ni procitat, a kamo li sastavit.
Dozvolite da se obratimo
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rocko wrote: 06 Apr 2020, 18:08
vila wrote: 06 Apr 2020, 17:32

Moze li pitanje...iako je vjerojatno glupo :ooo
Imaju li oboljeli ikakvu specificnu krvnu sliku ili neki lab.nalaz koji bi ukazivao na koronu
Tipa:visoki leukociti-visok crp
Niski leukociti-visok crp
Visoki leukociti-miran crp
Povisen broj segmentiranih limfocita?
Ista?

Pretpostavljam da nema nista specificno al rekoh vi ste tamo napredniji mozda ste stogod registrirali
Ma svi labs ukazuju na masivnu infekciju ali nista da moze se covjek zaklet da je specificno , i ono sto izgleda kao Eureka momenat nije dovoljno utvrdjeno da bi se moglo reci sa sigurnoscu, sve je bazirano na brisu, labs, pregledu, snimku pluca. Ovo sto je kod mene zavrsilo u bolnici prosjek 78 godina. par starijh par mladjih 2/3 hronicni plucni bolesnici.
Ma pretpostavila sam da je tako
Nego se sve nesto potajno nadam da ce se jedno jutro dogoditi eureka pa cemo skuzit neki jednostavan princip
Samo se nadam...jbg

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spacebound wrote: 06 Apr 2020, 18:10
Hannibal wrote: 06 Apr 2020, 18:05 pasagic je jeo govna, nije htio da se lijeci kod nasih doktora nego iso u bg i zg kod eminentih strucnjaka haha ovi nasi mu nisi boli dobri i sad kad se zarazijo idi rodo kod eminentih strucnjaka
I to znaci da treba covjeka pustit da umre?
ja bi ga pustio. idi u picku svoje materine, lijeci se kod strucnjaka kad smo mi olos
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rima wrote: 06 Apr 2020, 13:48 Nije mi jasno zasto nijedna eu drzava koja ima ogroman broj zarazenih i umrlih nisu jednostavno uzeli kineski sistem za borbu protiv virusa.?
Zato sto u Kini nemas prava koja imas u zapadnom svijetu , i kada bi probao kineski metod bakrotirale bi drzave placajuci ostete.
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ene rocko doktor
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Hannibal wrote: 06 Apr 2020, 18:12
spacebound wrote: 06 Apr 2020, 18:10

I to znaci da treba covjeka pustit da umre?
ja bi ga pustio. idi u picku svoje materine, lijeci se kod strucnjaka kad smo mi olos
Svako ima pravo da bira ljekara, drugo je sto se naviklo da se suti.
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Hannibal wrote: 06 Apr 2020, 18:13 ene rocko doktor
Ha?
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rocko wrote: 06 Apr 2020, 18:14
Hannibal wrote: 06 Apr 2020, 18:13 ene rocko doktor
Ha?
nisam znao da si doktor brt
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Hannibal wrote: 06 Apr 2020, 18:05 pasagic je jeo govna, nije htio da se lijeci kod nasih doktora nego iso u bg i zg kod eminentih strucnjaka haha ovi nasi mu nisi boli dobri i sad kad se zarazijo idi rodo kod eminentih strucnjaka
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