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Re: BiH pred najezdom hiljada migranata

Post by saint_mirad » 26 Dec 2020, 10:27

Lavlje_srce wrote: 26 Dec 2020, 00:47
saint_mirad wrote: 25 Dec 2020, 20:46Paki je samo skraćeno po Pakistanac, tako ih inače i zovu u slengu. Ni blizu ksenofobije.
Ma nemoj? Nemam obicaj pisati stvari koje ne poznajem. Izraz 'Paki' je izuzetno rasisticki. Evo malo besplatne edukacije:

Paki is a term typically directed towards people of South Asian descent, and as a racial slur is often used indiscriminately towards people of perceived South Asian descent in general. The slur is used primarily in English-speaking countries. In the United Kingdom, Scandinavia and Canada, the term "Paki" is commonly associated with "Paki-bashing", which consist of violent attacks against people of South Asian origin.

"Paki" is derived from the exonym Pakistan. The term Pak (پاک) means "pure" in Persian, Urdu and Pashto. There was no "Pak" or "Paki" ethnic group before the state was created. The name of Pakistan was coined by the Cambridge University political science student and Muslim nationalist Rahmat Ali, and was published on 28 January 1933 in the pamphlet Now or Never.

The use of the term "Paki" was first recorded in 1964, during a period of increased South Asian immigration to the United Kingdom. At this time the term "Paki" was very much in mixed usage it was used as a slur by some but also as an abbreviation by most others and was not considered any more offensive than the term Brits, Aussies or Kiwis. In addition to Pakistanis (which included Bangladeshis up until 1971), it has also been directed at people of other South Asian backgrounds as well as people from other demographics who physically resemble South Asians. Starting in the late 1960s, and peaking in the 1970s and 1980s, violent gangs opposed to immigration took part in attacks known as "Paki-bashing", which targeted and assaulted South Asians and businesses owned by them, and occasionally other ethnic minorities.

"Paki-bashing" became more common after Enoch Powell's Rivers of Blood speech in 1968;polls at the time showed that Powell's anti-immigrant rhetoric held support among sectors of the white populace at the time. "Paki-bashing" peaked during the 1970s–1980s, with the attackers often being supporters of far-right fascist, racist and anti-immigrant movements, including the white power skinheads, the National Front, and the British National Party. These attacks were usually referred to as either "Paki-bashing" or "skinhead terror", with the attackers usually called "Paki-bashers" or "skinheads". While the attackers were predominantly white, there were also instances of black skinheads engaging in "Paki-bashing" violence.

"Paki-bashing" was partly fuelled by the media's anti-immigrant and anti-Pakistani rhetoric at the time, and by systemic failures of state authorities, which included under-reporting racist attacks, the criminal justice system not taking racist violence seriously, constant racial harassment by police, and sometimes police involvement in racist violence. Asians were frequently stereotyped as "weak" and "passive" in the 1960s and 1970s, with Pakistanis viewed as "passive objects" and "unwilling to fight back", making them seen as easy targets by "Paki-bashers". The Joint Campaign Against Racism committee reported that there had been more than 20,000 racist attacks on British people of colour, including Britons of South Asian origin, during 1985.

Drawing inspiration from the Civil rights movement, the black power movement, and the anti-apartheid movement, young British Asian activists began a number of anti-racist youth movements against "Paki-bashing", including the Bradford Youth Movement in 1977, the Bangladeshi Youth Movement following the murder of Altab Ali in 1978, and the Newham Youth Movement following the murder of Akhtar Ali Baig in 1980.

In December 2000, the Advertising Standards Authority published research on attitudes of the British public to pejoratives. It ranked Paki as the tenth severest pejorative in the English language, up from 17th three years earlier.

Several scholars have compared Islamophobic street violence in the 2000s and 2010s to that of Paki-bashing in the 1970s and 1980s. Robert Lambert notes that a key difference is that, whereas the National Front and BNP targeted all British South Asians (including Muslims, Hindus and Sikhs), the EDL specifically target British Muslims. Lambert also compares the media's role in fuelling "Paki-bashing" in the late 20th century to its role in fuelling Islamophobic sentiment in the early 21st century. Geddes notes that variations of the "Paki" racial slur are occasionally used by members of the English Defence League.

Ako ti odgovara da metodom asocijacije budes povezan s ovakvima, samo naprijed. :roll
1. Teško se može nazvati lenjom nacija koja je kolonizovala 3/4 planete, koliko god nategnuli značenje prideva.

2. Ne dovedu baš, imas grooming gangs što siluju maloletnice i honour killings u sred Londona. U nekim četvrtima se primenjuje i šerijatski sud, pa ti vidi. Još sad su Britanci postali previše politički korektni i ne insistiraju na integraciji po svaku cenu jer se mogu uvrediti migrantska osećanja i religija
1) Kakve veze ima kolonizacija s lijenoscu? Kolonizacija ima veze s pamecu (koju im je tesko osporiti) i agresivnoscu, a mozda ponajvise sa intergeneracijskim sense-om of entitlement, sto ih ne cini vrijednima. Vole sefovati doduse.

2) Auuu, rasizam ti izbija iz svake rijeci. Odkad su kriminalci i kriminal prerogativ Azijata? Rekla bih da 'grooming gangs' prednjace kod tzv. bijelaca. Honor killings se ne mogu vezati za religiju kao sto ti cinis, ima ih i kod Juznoamerikanaca, Afrikanaca, Hindusa, mislim da Hindusi prednjace, mada je svako 'ubistvo radi casti' naravno krajnje degutantno.

Bas kao i tvoj kompletan post.
1. Izguglaj šta je protestantska etika i možda skontas zašto Britanci nisu lenji ni u kom slučaju, nasuprot.

2. Izguglaj grooming gangs Rotherham i karticu images. Srećno. Zna se koja civilizacija tretira žene kao građane drugog reda, otuda je kod njih grooming i normalizovan. Napaceni su i nisu navikli na zapadne žene koje nisu zamotane u nikabe. Honor killings se veže za kulturu kojoj je osnova u religiji, pa ti skontaj.

Nije rasizam kad kažeš kako jest.

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Re: BiH pred najezdom hiljada migranata

Post by prog321 » 26 Dec 2020, 10:30

Ooo. " Zna se koja civilizacija tretira zene kao gradjane drugog reda... " ?
A jel koja je to ?


Jos jedan insomnia u najavi. :oo
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Re: BiH pred najezdom hiljada migranata

Post by saint_mirad » 26 Dec 2020, 10:32

prog321 wrote: 26 Dec 2020, 10:30 Ooo. Zna se koja civilizacija tretira zene kao gradjane drugog reda ?
A jel koja je to ?


Jos jedan insomnia u najavi. :oo
Islamska, jarane. Nešto nisam primetio da budisti ili hrišćane genitalno sakate žene niti da ih svode na hodajuće mašine za bebe tako što ih zamotaju u celosti.

Uostalom, ako te zaista zanima stav islama prema ženi nema boljih izvora od ajeta i hadisa.

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Re: BiH pred najezdom hiljada migranata

Post by prog321 » 26 Dec 2020, 10:42

Ooo. Znaci diskutant islama iz kolijevke liberalizma , srbije ? :oo

Pa hajde mi navedi bilo koji ajet o zenama u islamu ja cu tebi navesti dva is biblije. Jel moze ?

U islamu su zene prve na svijetu dobile pravo na razvod.
Islam je prvi prihvatio druge religije kao sastavni dio svog društva. Pod islamom ces naci crkve koje datiraju iz 12 stoljeca. A kod krscana nema nijedna dzamija da je starija od 150g. a ostala netaknuta.
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Re: BiH pred najezdom hiljada migranata

Post by saint_mirad » 26 Dec 2020, 10:46

prog321 wrote: 26 Dec 2020, 10:42 Ooo. Znaci diskutant islama iz kolijevke liberalizma , srbije ? :oo

Pa hajde mi navedi bilo koji ajet o zenama u islamu ja cu tebi navesti dva is biblije. Jel moze ?

U islamu su zene prve na svijetu dobile pravo na razvod.
Islam je prvi prihvatio druge religije kao sastavni dio svog društva. Pod islamom ces naci crkve koje datiraju iz 12 stoljeca. A kod krscana nema nijedna dzamija da je starija od 150g. a ostala netaknuta.
Navešću ti kasnije sporne ajete i hadise, nikakav problem. Ne znam kako misliš poentirati sa Biblijom, ja hrišćanin nisam.

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Re: BiH pred najezdom hiljada migranata

Post by prog321 » 26 Dec 2020, 10:50

Mozda nisi ali zagovaras njihove gluposti.
Zato cu ti poentirati istim gradivom. :oo

I ne trudi se trazeci ajete.
Sve sto lose govori u koranu o zenama tri put gore je u bibliji.
I to za pokrivanje kose kod zena. Isto pise i u bibliji.
Pa u hrvatskoj su zene tek u 50im poskidale marame sa glave.
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Re: BiH pred najezdom hiljada migranata

Post by saint_mirad » 26 Dec 2020, 10:52

Fulaš poentu, nemam nameru braniti Bibliju, ona je u pet deka sa Kur'anom oko toga.

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Re: BiH pred najezdom hiljada migranata

Post by prog321 » 26 Dec 2020, 10:53

A poenta je ?
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Re: BiH pred najezdom hiljada migranata

Post by saint_mirad » 26 Dec 2020, 10:57

Da su Pakiji i slični skloniji silovanju žena zbog slabijeg civilizacijkog stepena razvoja, a usled uticaja religije.

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Re: BiH pred najezdom hiljada migranata

Post by prog321 » 26 Dec 2020, 11:14

Hoces reci da su hinduisti manje skloni silovanju od pakistanaca ?

Citas li ti uopšte vijesti o indiji?
Svaki mjesec po par silovanja. I to grupna.

Tebi je malo mozak ispran zapadnom antiislamskom propagandom . Moras nauciti citat izmedju redova.
Sve informacije prikupiti i sastaviti sliku.
Zvuci mi da si mlad.
Je li jos studiras ?
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Re: BiH pred najezdom hiljada migranata

Post by saint_mirad » 26 Dec 2020, 12:00

Taj ageism argument sačuvaj za nekog drugog. Čovek studira (uči) dok je živ, svakako.

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Post by prog321 » 26 Dec 2020, 12:12

Dobro. :oo
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Re: BiH pred najezdom hiljada migranata

Post by Lavlje_srce » 26 Dec 2020, 14:33

saint_mirad wrote: 26 Dec 2020, 10:271. Izguglaj šta je protestantska etika i možda skontas zašto Britanci nisu lenji ni u kom slučaju, nasuprot.
Kakve ti besmislice pises. :inasab Dakle nesto sto moze u bilo kom kontekstu biti povezano s rjecju 'etika' je dovelo do porobljavana, pljackanja i ropstva / nadnicarenja sirom svijeta? Sta je onda dovelo do portugalskog, spanskog, osmanskog, japanskog i ruskog imperijalizma? Katolicka, islamska, pravoslavna i budisticka 'etika'?
2. Izguglaj grooming gangs Rotherham i karticu images. Srećno. Zna se koja civilizacija tretira žene kao građane drugog reda, otuda je kod njih grooming i normalizovan. Napaceni su i nisu navikli na zapadne žene koje nisu zamotane u nikabe. Honor killings se veže za kulturu kojoj je osnova u religiji, pa ti skontaj.

Nije rasizam kad kažeš kako jest.
Izguglala sam i prevrnuo mi se stomak vise puta. Sto zbog sistematskog seksualnog zlostavljanja 1400 djevojcica od 11-16 godina i uvodjenja u prostituciju, sto zbog toga sto je policija za ove monstruozne zlocine znala barem 10 godina i nista nije ucinila. 56 zlocinaca je osudjeno, 53 Azijata i 3 bijelih. Poenta je na rijeci zlocinci (kojih ima u svim bojama koze i religijskim denominacijama), a ne Azijati. Ono sto je rasisticko u tvom postu je to sto impliciras da je seksualno zlostavljanje djevojcica i zena azijatski/muslimanski prerogativ, mada cinjenice govore drugacije (nazalost) - cinjenice kazu da je tzv. bijeli covjek i dale najveci zlostavljac zena.

To je potvrdjeno i na samom kraju istrage: "In December 2017, Quilliam released a report entitled "Group Based Child Sexual Exploitation – Dissecting Grooming Gangs", concluding that 84% of offenders were of South Asian heritage. This review was criticised for its poor methodology by Ella Cockbain and Waqas Tufail, in their paper "Failing victims, fuelling hate: challenging the harms of the 'Muslim grooming gangs' narrative" which was published in January 2020. In December that year, a further report by the Home Office was released, showing that the majority of CSE gangs were, in fact, composed of white men.

Research has found that group-based child sexual exploitation offenders are most commonly white. Some studies suggest an overrepresentation of black and Asian offenders relative to the demographics of national populations. However, it is not possible to conclude that this is representative of all group-based CSE offending. – Home Office.

Writing in The Guardian, Cockbain and Tufail wrote of the report that "The two-year study by the Home Office makes very clear that there are no grounds for asserting that Muslim or Pakistani-heritage men are disproportionately engaged in such crimes, and, citing our research, it confirmed the unreliability of the Quilliam claim"."
saint_mirad wrote: 26 Dec 2020, 10:57 Da su Pakiji i slični skloniji silovanju žena zbog slabijeg civilizacijkog stepena razvoja, a usled uticaja religije.
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Re: BiH pred najezdom hiljada migranata

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saint_mirad wrote: 26 Dec 2020, 10:32
prog321 wrote: 26 Dec 2020, 10:30 Ooo. Zna se koja civilizacija tretira zene kao gradjane drugog reda ?
A jel koja je to ?


Jos jedan insomnia u najavi. :oo
Islamska, jarane. Nešto nisam primetio da budisti ili hrišćane genitalno sakate žene niti da ih svode na hodajuće mašine za bebe tako što ih zamotaju u celosti.

Uostalom, ako te zaista zanima stav islama prema ženi nema boljih izvora od ajeta i hadisa.
Nek si ti civilizovan, zoveš ljude Pakijima.
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Re: BiH pred najezdom hiljada migranata

Post by Taare » 26 Dec 2020, 14:40

saint_mirad wrote: 26 Dec 2020, 10:46
prog321 wrote: 26 Dec 2020, 10:42 Ooo. Znaci diskutant islama iz kolijevke liberalizma , srbije ? :oo

Pa hajde mi navedi bilo koji ajet o zenama u islamu ja cu tebi navesti dva is biblije. Jel moze ?

U islamu su zene prve na svijetu dobile pravo na razvod.
Islam je prvi prihvatio druge religije kao sastavni dio svog društva. Pod islamom ces naci crkve koje datiraju iz 12 stoljeca. A kod krscana nema nijedna dzamija da je starija od 150g. a ostala netaknuta.
Navešću ti kasnije sporne ajete i hadise, nikakav problem. Ne znam kako misliš poentirati sa Biblijom, ja hrišćanin nisam.
Evo, čekam sa velkačkim nestrpljenjem :inasab
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Re: BiH pred najezdom hiljada migranata

Post by Mutevelija » 26 Dec 2020, 15:18

Jooj evo udrobili i Islam sad.
Posmatraču mog posta.
Jednaki smo mi skoro oba.
Ja sam juče bio takav
Ti ćeš sutra biti ovakav.
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Re: BiH pred najezdom hiljada migranata

Post by Krokodil Behko » 26 Dec 2020, 16:52

Mutevelija wrote: 26 Dec 2020, 15:18 Jooj evo udrobili i Islam sad.

Imal migrantkinja?
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Re: BiH pred najezdom hiljada migranata

Post by Mutevelija » 26 Dec 2020, 16:55

Krokodil Behko wrote: 26 Dec 2020, 16:52
Mutevelija wrote: 26 Dec 2020, 15:18 Jooj evo udrobili i Islam sad.

Imal migrantkinja?
Nema jebes ga samo oni traze pare mudonje, budem i ljubomoran kad malo vise oko nasih zena pricaju a na autobuskoj stajim.

I jos kaze onoj na kiosku necu ja bosansku kafu ja cu njemacku..
Posmatraču mog posta.
Jednaki smo mi skoro oba.
Ja sam juče bio takav
Ti ćeš sutra biti ovakav.
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Re: BiH pred najezdom hiljada migranata

Post by Hurija » 26 Dec 2020, 16:55

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Re: BiH pred najezdom hiljada migranata

Post by Krokodil Behko » 26 Dec 2020, 16:58

Mutevelija wrote: 26 Dec 2020, 16:55
Krokodil Behko wrote: 26 Dec 2020, 16:52


Imal migrantkinja?
Nema jebes ga samo oni traze pare mudonje, budem i ljubomoran kad malo vise oko nasih zena pricaju a na autobuskoj stajim.

I jos kaze onoj na kiosku necu ja bosansku kafu ja cu njemacku..

A koja je njemačka kafa?
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