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Re: Osmansko carstvo u BiH i regionu

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animals wrote: 08 Feb 2021, 15:35
Laser wrote: 08 Feb 2021, 15:34

Laže velečasni. :D.

To su radili njegovi inkvizitori. Pogotovo sa Crkvom bosanskom.

Da su Osmanlije tako radili, ne bi ti sad molio krunicu, nego bi sa Fudom okretao tespih, ko pravi musliman.
Da nisu radili, i ti bi drzao krunicu..
Znači, kontra svih povjesničara, katolik animals tvrdi da su Osmanlije prisilno ugonili u islam? :D.

I nisu napisali Ahdnamu fra Anđelu Zvizdiću?

Ne rekoh li već da si loše zamaskirani katoliban. :D.
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Re: Osmansko carstvo u BiH i regionu

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Laser wrote: 08 Feb 2021, 15:38
bosnjakinja wrote: 08 Feb 2021, 15:31

Nije djavola,evo pitaj to Filipince ,evo pitaj to sve afrikance

a sto se tice austrougarske,kazem ti da je ona nas kasno dobila,da je ranije pitanje je sta bi bilo
Da je ovo, da je ono...

Ali nije. Šta više, Austrija nam je formirala Islamsku zajednicu. Fala im. Nismo bili čak ni za to sposobni.

Nemojmo se kurčiti bez pokrića i nemojmo izvrtati povikene činjenice kao kriptokatolik animals. :D.
Pa kako je Muhamed branio Islam :hm
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Re: Osmansko carstvo u BiH i regionu

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Venera wrote: 08 Feb 2021, 15:41
Laser wrote: 08 Feb 2021, 15:38

Da je ovo, da je ono...

Ali nije. Šta više, Austrija nam je formirala Islamsku zajednicu. Fala im. Nismo bili čak ni za to sposobni.

Nemojmo se kurčiti bez pokrića i nemojmo izvrtati povikene činjenice kao kriptokatolik animals. :D.
Pa kako je Muhamed branio Islam :hm
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Re: Osmansko carstvo u BiH i regionu

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Laser wrote: 08 Feb 2021, 15:41
animals wrote: 08 Feb 2021, 15:35

Da nisu radili, i ti bi drzao krunicu..
Znači, kontra svih povjesničara, katolik animals tvrdi da su Osmanlije prisilno ugonili u islam? :D.

I nisu napisali Ahdnamu fra Anđelu Zvizdiću?

Ne rekoh li već da si loše zamaskirani katoliban. :D.
Pa nisu prisilno, ali jesu indirektno prisilnim putem, neces konertiranje na Islam, oduzmu posjed, uvedu poseban pores :D.
Skin: "nemoj ljubinka, ja sam vec ispala iz aviona"
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Re: Osmansko carstvo u BiH i regionu

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Venera wrote: 08 Feb 2021, 15:41
Laser wrote: 08 Feb 2021, 15:38

Da je ovo, da je ono...

Ali nije. Šta više, Austrija nam je formirala Islamsku zajednicu. Fala im. Nismo bili čak ni za to sposobni.

Nemojmo se kurčiti bez pokrića i nemojmo izvrtati povikene činjenice kao kriptokatolik animals. :D.
Pa kako je Muhamed branio Islam :hm
Istim metodama kako je i napadan. Branio se istim onim cvijećem kojim je bivao zasipan.

Što bi rekao jedan vamo, ahihiiiiii. :plavi
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Re: Osmansko carstvo u BiH i regionu

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Venera wrote: 08 Feb 2021, 15:39
bosnjakinja wrote: 08 Feb 2021, 15:26

ali samo i jedino radi neposluh,sto se tice vjere radi toga nikada,najbolji ti je primjer Fatihova pomajka koja je danas pravoslavni svetac
a ona je bila robinja iz harema :hm

Hüma Hatun was one of the consorts of Murad II and the mother of Mehmed the Conqueror, born on 30 March 1432. Her origins are controversial, but it is certain that she was a slave concubine because in the deed of a pious foundation she is mentioned as “Hatun bint Abdullah”, which is how female converts were referred to. Furthemore, Hüma was a name of Persian origin, and clearly given to her when she entered the harem.

According to tradition, which has not been proved yet, she was an Italian woman named Stella. Stella was the translation of Esther, a typical name among Jews, so it’s possible that she was a Jewish woman captured and presented to Murad II. What we know is that she wasn’t a French princess, as it would later be said.

Mehmed was sent to Amasya in 1443 and his mother surely followed him there. She died in August or September of 1449 and was buried in Bursa in a garden, about 100 yards from Murad II’s tomb. Later, her son built a tomb there, the Hatuniye Türbe, in his mother’s honour. – requested by anon



Zar on nije imao vise pomajki, jer mu je otac imao formalno 4 zene :valja

radi se o zeni oca sultana,Mara Brankovic.Nikada nije prihvatila islam,i uvijek je pomagale crkve ali je ujedno bila veliki podrzavaoc Fatiha i bila mu je veliki savjetnik

Sultan Fatih s pravom majkom nije imao nikakav kontakt,ne zna se nista o njoj,ali je Maru zvao majka
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Re: Osmansko carstvo u BiH i regionu

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Venera wrote: 08 Feb 2021, 15:43
Laser wrote: 08 Feb 2021, 15:41

Znači, kontra svih povjesničara, katolik animals tvrdi da su Osmanlije prisilno ugonili u islam? :D.

I nisu napisali Ahdnamu fra Anđelu Zvizdiću?

Ne rekoh li već da si loše zamaskirani katoliban. :D.
Pa nisu prisilno, ali jesu indirektno prisilnim putem, neces konertiranje na Islam, oduzmu posjed, uvedu poseban pores :D.
I tebe je zayebo velečasni. :plavi
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Re: Osmansko carstvo u BiH i regionu

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Beni wrote: 08 Feb 2021, 15:43
Venera wrote: 08 Feb 2021, 15:41

Pa kako je Muhamed branio Islam :hm
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Laser wrote: 08 Feb 2021, 15:41
animals wrote: 08 Feb 2021, 15:35

Da nisu radili, i ti bi drzao krunicu..
Znači, kontra svih povjesničara, katolik animals tvrdi da su Osmanlije prisilno ugonili u islam? :D.

I nisu napisali Ahdnamu fra Anđelu Zvizdiću?

Ne rekoh li već da si loše zamaskirani katoliban. :D.
Ma ne, ljubavlju je siren..
ja nikad nisam negirao da je i krscanstvo sireno macem..
u tome se razlikujem od vas..
da mogu kritikovati i svoju religiju..
vi svoju dizete na pijedastal, kao jedinu koja se sirila ljubavlju..
jedini Insomnio smije od vas kritikovati Islam..
ostali, se odmah obruse na bilo koga ko nesto protiv kaze..
islam kao i sve ostale religije, macem se sirio i nema tu sta da se objasnjava..
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Venera wrote: 08 Feb 2021, 15:44
Beni wrote: 08 Feb 2021, 15:43

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animals wrote: 08 Feb 2021, 15:44
Laser wrote: 08 Feb 2021, 15:41

Znači, kontra svih povjesničara, katolik animals tvrdi da su Osmanlije prisilno ugonili u islam? :D.

I nisu napisali Ahdnamu fra Anđelu Zvizdiću?

Ne rekoh li već da si loše zamaskirani katoliban. :D.
Ma ne, ljubavlju je siren..
ja nikad nisam negirao da je i krscanstvo sireno macem..
u tome se razlikujem od vas..
da mogu kritikovati i svoju religiju..
vi svoju dizete na pijedastal, kao jedinu koja se sirila ljubavlju..
jedini Insomnio smije od vas kritikovati Islam..
ostali, se odmah obruse na bilo koga ko nesto protiv kaze..
islam kao i sve ostale religije, macem se sirio i nema tu sta da se objasnjava..
Reče velečasni, nakon što je primio Ahdnamu od sultan Fatiha. :D.
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Glupost je uopce raspravljati ciji je caca jaci..
Zasto konja tuces sine, kad i drugi cura ima..
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bosnjakinja wrote: 08 Feb 2021, 15:43
Venera wrote: 08 Feb 2021, 15:39

a ona je bila robinja iz harema :hm

Hüma Hatun was one of the consorts of Murad II and the mother of Mehmed the Conqueror, born on 30 March 1432. Her origins are controversial, but it is certain that she was a slave concubine because in the deed of a pious foundation she is mentioned as “Hatun bint Abdullah”, which is how female converts were referred to. Furthemore, Hüma was a name of Persian origin, and clearly given to her when she entered the harem.

According to tradition, which has not been proved yet, she was an Italian woman named Stella. Stella was the translation of Esther, a typical name among Jews, so it’s possible that she was a Jewish woman captured and presented to Murad II. What we know is that she wasn’t a French princess, as it would later be said.

Mehmed was sent to Amasya in 1443 and his mother surely followed him there. She died in August or September of 1449 and was buried in Bursa in a garden, about 100 yards from Murad II’s tomb. Later, her son built a tomb there, the Hatuniye Türbe, in his mother’s honour. – requested by anon



Zar on nije imao vise pomajki, jer mu je otac imao formalno 4 zene :valja

radi se o zeni oca sultana,Mara Brankovic.Nikada nije prihvatila islam,i uvijek je pomagale crkve ali je ujedno bila veliki podrzavaoc Fatiha i bila mu je veliki savjetnik

Sultan Fatih s pravom majkom nije imao nikakav kontakt,ne zna se nista o njoj,ali je Maru zvao majka
Serbia, at the time, was in a shaky spot. Sandwiched between the rapidly growing Ottoman Empire, and the land hungry Hungarian Empire, Serbia was put in the precarious position of having to serve two masters who didn't like each other. Đurađ had been able to gain the position of despot by only the skin of his teeth, after the previous despot died without an heir. he required the approval of the leaders of his powerful neighbors to retain his position. In order to appease the pair, he gave his daughters to them in marriage, Mara to Sultan Murad II, and her sister, Katrina, to the Count of Hungary.

Mara returned to her family in Serbia, all of whom were remarkably still alive, if not still in possession of all important organs. With Mara returned the vast swathes of Serbia that had served as her dowry, and Đurađ found himself the happy owner of more land than he had before.

http://www.thathistorynerd.com/2019/02/ ... kovic.html
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Ma da u bitkama, cvijecem odrubljivali glave jedni drugima..
zavisi od momenta i inspiracije, ko je imao vise cvijeca i ljubavi...
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Laser wrote: 08 Feb 2021, 15:44
Venera wrote: 08 Feb 2021, 15:43

Pa nisu prisilno, ali jesu indirektno prisilnim putem, neces konertiranje na Islam, oduzmu posjed, uvedu poseban pores :D.
I tebe je zayebo velečasni. :plavi
Tebe tvoje neznanje povijesti :D.
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Venera wrote: 08 Feb 2021, 15:51
bosnjakinja wrote: 08 Feb 2021, 15:43


radi se o zeni oca sultana,Mara Brankovic.Nikada nije prihvatila islam,i uvijek je pomagale crkve ali je ujedno bila veliki podrzavaoc Fatiha i bila mu je veliki savjetnik

Sultan Fatih s pravom majkom nije imao nikakav kontakt,ne zna se nista o njoj,ali je Maru zvao majka
Serbia, at the time, was in a shaky spot. Sandwiched between the rapidly growing Ottoman Empire, and the land hungry Hungarian Empire, Serbia was put in the precarious position of having to serve two masters who didn't like each other. Đurađ had been able to gain the position of despot by only the skin of his teeth, after the previous despot died without an heir. he required the approval of the leaders of his powerful neighbors to retain his position. In order to appease the pair, he gave his daughters to them in marriage, Mara to Sultan Murad II, and her sister, Katrina, to the Count of Hungary.

Mara returned to her family in Serbia, all of whom were remarkably still alive, if not still in possession of all important organs. With Mara returned the vast swathes of Serbia that had served as her dowry, and Đurađ found himself the happy owner of more land than he had before.

http://www.thathistorynerd.com/2019/02/ ... kovic.html

da,pa je prisluskivala oca i pomogla Fatihu da osvoji Srbiju :)
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animals wrote: 08 Feb 2021, 15:48 Glupost je uopce raspravljati ciji je caca jaci..

Nije glupost, nego je potreba razotkriti lažljive katolibane kao što si ti.

Tad je sultan Fatih bio jači, nije bilo NATO pakta niti ujedinjenih nacija da ga spriječe u činjenju onoga što mu je bio ćeif. Pa, ipak, on je ovako uradio:

Ja sultan Mehmed-han, dajem na znanje cijelom svijetu, kako prostom puku, tako i odličnijim, da su posjednici toga carskoga fermana, bosanski franjevci, našli veliku pažnju, te zapovijedam: Neka niko ne smeta i ne uznemiruje spomenute ni njihove crkve!

Neka (mirno) stanuju u mom carstvu. A oni koji su izbjegli neka budu slobodni i sigurni. Neka se povrate i neka se bez straha u zemljama moga carstva nastane u svojim samostanima. Ni moje Visoko veličanstvo, ni moji veziri, ni moji službenici, ni moji podanici, niti iko od stanovnika moga carstva neka ih ne vrijeđa i ne uznemiruje, ni njih ni njihov život, ni njihov imetak, ni njihove bogomolje. Dozvoljava im se iz tuđine dovoditi ljude – svećenike, u moju zemlju.

Stoga spomenutim izdajem uzvišenu povelju u kojoj im posvećujem svoju brigu i pažnju, te se kunem teškom zakletvom: Tako mi Stvoritelja zemlje i nebesa, Koji hrani sva stvorenja, i tako mi sedam mushafa, i tako mi našega velikog Božijeg poslanika Muhammeda i 124.000 pejgambera, i tako mi sablje, koju pašem, niko ne smije prekršiti ovo što je napisano, dok oni budu pokorni mojoj službi i vjerni mojoj zapovijesti.

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Eto, zato ti danas moliš krunicu, a nama lažeš da ne moliš. Da ne bi Fatiha atakvog kakav jest, sad bi ti pjan tekbiro sa Fudom. :D.
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Venera wrote: 08 Feb 2021, 15:52
Laser wrote: 08 Feb 2021, 15:44

I tebe je zayebo velečasni. :plavi
Tebe tvoje neznanje povijesti :D.
Što bi reko doktor Arslanagić, ahihihiiii. :ha
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Znas li ti koliko je u zadnje forumasa napustilo ovaj forum zbog takvih kao sto si ti..
mene nazivas katolibanom..
fino cu da te odjebem iz svoje diskusije..
posto si jedan od nekulturni seljaka sa ovoga foruma..
ajd sad zaobidji me i komentarisi Bosnjakinju dalje...
Zasto konja tuces sine, kad i drugi cura ima..
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