Sta motivise ljude pa slijede ideologiju Vehabizma?

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Re: Sta motivise ljude pa slijede ideologiju Vehabizma?

Post by rethna » 01 Jan 2016, 18:03

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rethna wrote:Svugdje ima budala kojima se lahko da manipulisati.Religija nije bitna tu.
Religija je jedna od stvari za manipulisanje.
Koje su ostale?
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Re: Sta motivise ljude pa slijede ideologiju Vehabizma?

Post by Krokodil Behko » 01 Jan 2016, 18:09

Mutevelija wrote:izučavao je fikh Hanbelijskog mezheba, međutim, kad god bi primijetio neko neslaganje, on bi se priklonio onoj pravnoj školi koja je, prema njegovom mišljenju, imala ispravnije mišljenje.

Da li to znači, da vehabizam nije u potpunosti taj hanbelijski mezheb?
Zapravo, mi smo hanefijski mezheb i bez obzira na sličnost u nazivu, čini mi se da govorimo o različitim mezhebima, pa bi bilo zanimljivo čuti zašto vehabije misle, kako je za nas najbolji mezheb kojeg nigdje nema, osim dole kod onih pravih Arapa?
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Re: Sta motivise ljude pa slijede ideologiju Vehabizma?

Post by Mutevelija » 01 Jan 2016, 19:02

"Ibn Hanbal rejected the possibility of religiously binding consensus (Ijma), as it was impossible to verify once later generations of Muslims spread throughout the world,[10] going as far as declaring anyone who claimed as such to be a liar. Ibn Hanbal did, however, accept the possibility and validity of the consensus of the Sahaba. the first generation of Muslims.[17][18] Later followers of the school, however, expanded on the types of consensus accepted as valid, and the prominent Hanbalite Ibn Taymiyyah expanded legal consensus to later generations while at the same time restricting it only to the religiously learned.[18] Analogical reasoning (Qiyas), was likewise rejected as a valid source of law by Ibn Hanbal himself,[10][19][20] with a near-unanimous majority of later Hanbalite jurists not only accepting analogical reasoning as valid but also borrowing from the works of Shafi'ite jurists on the subject.

Ibn Hanbal's strict standards of acceptance regarding the sources of Islamic law were probably due to his suspicion regarding the field of Usul al-Fiqh, which he equated with speculative theology (kalam).[21] In the modern era, Hanbalites have branched out and even delved into matters regarding the upholding (Istislah) of public interest (Maslaha) and even juristic preference (Istihsan), anathema to the earlier Hanbalites as valid methods of determining religious law.

Kod njih izgleda nema Idžme, kao jednog od izvora šerijata.
A idžma je konzensus uleme, o nekim pitanjama na koja ne odgovaraju Kuran i Sunnet.
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Ja sam juče bio takav
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Re: Sta motivise ljude pa slijede ideologiju Vehabizma?

Post by Hannibal » 01 Jan 2016, 19:12

Mutevelija wrote:"Ibn Hanbal rejected the possibility of religiously binding consensus (Ijma), as it was impossible to verify once later generations of Muslims spread throughout the world,[10] going as far as declaring anyone who claimed as such to be a liar. Ibn Hanbal did, however, accept the possibility and validity of the consensus of the Sahaba. the first generation of Muslims.[17][18] Later followers of the school, however, expanded on the types of consensus accepted as valid, and the prominent Hanbalite Ibn Taymiyyah expanded legal consensus to later generations while at the same time restricting it only to the religiously learned.[18] Analogical reasoning (Qiyas), was likewise rejected as a valid source of law by Ibn Hanbal himself,[10][19][20] with a near-unanimous majority of later Hanbalite jurists not only accepting analogical reasoning as valid but also borrowing from the works of Shafi'ite jurists on the subject.

Ibn Hanbal's strict standards of acceptance regarding the sources of Islamic law were probably due to his suspicion regarding the field of Usul al-Fiqh, which he equated with speculative theology (kalam).[21] In the modern era, Hanbalites have branched out and even delved into matters regarding the upholding (Istislah) of public interest (Maslaha) and even juristic preference (Istihsan), anathema to the earlier Hanbalites as valid methods of determining religious law.

Kod njih izgleda nema Idžme, kao jednog od izvora šerijata.
A idžma je konzensus uleme, o nekim pitanjama na koja ne odgovaraju Kuran i Sunnet.
Nisam ja ovo reko
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Re: Sta motivise ljude pa slijede ideologiju Vehabizma?

Post by Mutevelija » 01 Jan 2016, 19:13

Koje.
Posmatraču mog posta.
Jednaki smo mi skoro oba.
Ja sam juče bio takav
Ti ćeš sutra biti ovakav.
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Re: Sta motivise ljude pa slijede ideologiju Vehabizma?

Post by Hannibal » 01 Jan 2016, 19:15

Nista od ovog u tvom postu. Nemoj pisat da sam ja to reko kad nisam
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Re: Sta motivise ljude pa slijede ideologiju Vehabizma?

Post by Mutevelija » 01 Jan 2016, 19:16

Pa nisam ni rekao da si ti reko.
Posmatraču mog posta.
Jednaki smo mi skoro oba.
Ja sam juče bio takav
Ti ćeš sutra biti ovakav.
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Re: Sta motivise ljude pa slijede ideologiju Vehabizma?

Post by rethna » 01 Jan 2016, 22:11

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Re: Sta motivise ljude pa slijede ideologiju Vehabizma?

Post by Mutevelija » 01 Jan 2016, 22:37

Hanbeli
Hanibal da liči nema šta.
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Jednaki smo mi skoro oba.
Ja sam juče bio takav
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Re: Sta motivise ljude pa slijede ideologiju Vehabizma?

Post by Hannibal » 01 Jan 2016, 22:47

Mutevelija wrote:Hanbeli
Hanibal da liči nema šta.
Hahahaha ibn hanbal :D
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Re: Sta motivise ljude pa slijede ideologiju Vehabizma?

Post by Mutevelija » 01 Jan 2016, 22:49

Reci šta znači ibn ,pa kupi sebi šta kad budeš im'o para.
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Re: Sta motivise ljude pa slijede ideologiju Vehabizma?

Post by Podrinjac » 01 Jan 2016, 23:57

rethna wrote:
Podrinjac wrote:
rethna wrote:Svugdje ima budala kojima se lahko da manipulisati.Religija nije bitna tu.
Religija je jedna od stvari za manipulisanje.
Koje su ostale?
Ostale su novac, interes.

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Re: Sta motivise ljude pa slijede ideologiju Vehabizma?

Post by SisterIbrahim » 23 Feb 2016, 17:33

REMB wrote:Svaki logičan odgovor koji dadnem sebi, u praksi me demantuje.
Zar mlad čovjek ne bi, prije svega, energiju trebao trošiti na školovanje, djevojke...
Zreo čovjek bi valjda trebao biti zabrinut kako platit račune, podići djecu...

Al ovdje vidimo da i mladi i zreli ljudi prihvataju ideologiju Vehabizma, postaju agresivni, samo su time opsjednuti. Do jučer je taj neki pio alkohol a sad bi u vatru bacio onog koji pije.

Hajd budi pametan...
zato sto je njih 90% bilo otirac drustva, i onda dodju negdje gdje im prvo obaspu poklonima, raznim knjigama, pa kad zagrizu, nema poklona, al su ostali tu..najvise ih je bez roditelja, sirocad, koji su bili izazivani, otiraci drustva, djeca bogatih gdje roditelji nikad nisu bili tu, itd itd..apsolutno niko ko je bio u zdravom okruzenju.

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Re: Sta motivise ljude pa slijede ideologiju Vehabizma?

Post by String » 23 Feb 2016, 20:28

Motivise ih cash i "lezi hljebe da te jedem" tehnika.
Onda poslije kad to "izuce" padne im zeljezo u krvi pa samo gledaju gdje ce se metaka naprimati u glavu.
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Re: Sta motivise ljude pa slijede ideologiju Vehabizma?

Post by SisterIbrahim » 23 Feb 2016, 22:11

String wrote:Motivise ih cash i "lezi hljebe da te jedem" tehnika.
Onda poslije kad to "izuce" padne im zeljezo u krvi pa samo gledaju gdje ce se metaka naprimati u glavu.
Zar zaista mislis da bi ih neko tek tako finansirao

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Re: Sta motivise ljude pa slijede ideologiju Vehabizma?

Post by Mutevelija » 23 Feb 2016, 22:17

"Šejha Kardavija nazivate šejhom."
Posmatraču mog posta.
Jednaki smo mi skoro oba.
Ja sam juče bio takav
Ti ćeš sutra biti ovakav.
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Re: Sta motivise ljude pa slijede ideologiju Vehabizma?

Post by SisterIbrahim » 23 Feb 2016, 22:21

Mutevelija wrote:"Šejha Kardavija nazivate šejhom."
Ps zar nije?

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Re: Sta motivise ljude pa slijede ideologiju Vehabizma?

Post by Mutevelija » 23 Feb 2016, 22:22

PA to on kaže u videu. :hihi
Posmatraču mog posta.
Jednaki smo mi skoro oba.
Ja sam juče bio takav
Ti ćeš sutra biti ovakav.
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Re: Sta motivise ljude pa slijede ideologiju Vehabizma?

Post by Maja » 25 Sep 2020, 11:33

Zasto bi novac bio njihov motiv tj zasto bi im iko placao da budu vehabije i kome kao takvi uopste koriste, ne kontam. Sta je iciji cilj u svemu tome. Ograde se u nekom mjestu i zive bez puno kontakata s ostalim ljudima.
A i zadnjih godina sve se manje dize halabuka oko njih. Prije je to bas bilo intenzivno. Non stop ih spopadale novinarske ekipe, predstavljali su ih kao rasadnik za nove bombase samoubice, teroriste.

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Re: Sta motivise ljude pa slijede ideologiju Vehabizma?

Post by MrH » 25 Sep 2020, 11:38

A sta je to vehabizam?
Da li ste ikada culi da takvi ljudi nazivaju sebe vehabijama?
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