Velika Britanija

[Lebowski]

Mislim da će kupiti određen broj ljudi sa ovim, ipak je to svake godine određena svota para a dobiješ je nizašto. Ima valjda i onih kojima je svjedeno gdje će Škotska biti.

Ovo nije protuzakonito?

[Krokodil Behko]

Neće oni to dobiti na ruke.
Procjena je možda, da će u budžetu biti više za toliko po glavi stanovnika.

[Lebowski]

A vidim, kao ako ostane Škotska SVAKI stanovnik će dobiti... Što su onda napisali da se radi o dividendi i tačnu cifru?

[Spanac_113]

To oni racunaju da ce se odbijati uz porezne olaksice Leb. Npr u engleskoj i velsu je trenutno prvih 9870 funti neoporezivo. Na taj bi nacin, pretpostavljam, i bila isplacena ta svota skotima. Mada je to corava cifra.

[Krokodil Behko]

Britanci sve manje piju alkohol i manje posjećuju pabove, pokazuju zvanični podaci studije "Informativnog centra za zdravlje i socijalnu zaštitu" - Health and Social Care Information Centre.

Između 2005. i 2012. godine procenat muškaraca koji su se izjasnili da piju alkohol tokom sedmice pao je sa 72 na 64 odsto, dok je kod žena smanjen sa 57 na 52 procenta.

Ta tendencija je registrovana i kod mladih. U 2003. godini 61 odsto mladih od 11 do 15 godina izjavilo je da je konzumiralo alkohol najmanje jedan put u životu. Taj procenat je 2012. godine pao na 43 odsto.

Studija je pokazala da Britanci slabije idu u pabove, već kod kuće konzumiraju alkohol, koji je jeftiniji u supermarketima.

Svake sedmice gotovo trideset pabova zatvara svoja vrata.

[Lebowski]

Pubovi su jedna od rijetkih stvari koje me privlače u Engleskoj i koje bih posjetio ako kad odem. Pijte, šta se glupirate!

[storm]

Upravo to sheva....ja bi čak rekao da se i više pije....ali se iz poskupih pubova za radničku klasu i ostale niže slojeve, jednostavno prešlo na domove i ostaloo navedeno...
uostalom, pitam i tu ugostitelje i barem 30% je pad prometa od prije 5 godina....nekima i više, pa je većina na rubu...kafići mijenjaju najamnike, da ne stignem upratiti tko je trenutno ....čak su i konobarice konstantnije

[Spanac_113]

LONDON - Na stotine žrtava Jimmyja Savilea ima pravo na odštetu, no kako dani odmiču tako je sve više dokaza o njegovim odvratnim zločinima. Poznati BBC-jev DJ i voditelj popularne emisije Top of the Pops, Jimmy Savile, preminuo je u listopadu 2011. godine i otada se javilo više od 500 osoba koja tvrde da ih je upravo on zlostavljao i to većinu u vrlo ranoj dobi.

Najnoviji dokazi pokazali su kako je njegova najmlađa žrtva imala svega dvije godine, prenosi Daily Mail.

Prva žrtva pedofila Savilea odnosi se na sam početak njegove karijere 1955., a posljednja 2009., manje od dvije godine prije njegove smrti u jesen 2011. u dobi od 84 godine, prenosi Dnevnik.hr.

Njegovi su zločini dosegnuli vrhunac u razdoblju između 1966. i 1976. u doba njegove najveće slave na BBC-u koja ga je, zbog izuzetne popularnosti emisija za djecu i mladež 'Jimmy’ll fix it' i 'Top of the Pops' učinila nedodirljivim.

Savileova stravična tajna najvjerojatnije bi do danas ostala neotkrivena da prošlo ljeto nije objavljen dokumentarni film 'Exposure: Druga strana Jimmyja Savilea'. Do tada je Savile u svijesti Britanaca bio ne samo TV zvijezda nego i filantrop i voditelj brojnih humanitarnih akcija za djecu, zbog čega je 1971. nagrađen kraljičinom titulom.

(Vijesti.ba)

[Spanac_113]

http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/ ... democracy/

[Krokodil Behko]

Ujedinjeno Kraljevstvo zabranilo je učenje kreacionizma kao naučno validne teorije u svim školama koje se finansiraju iz budžeta, prenosi sajt Upi.

Vlada je objavila nova pravila o finansiranju među kojima se nalaze klauzule koje zabranjuju pseudonauku.

Ova pravila eksplicitno traže da se studenti uče teoriji evolucije i zabranjuje učenje „kreacionizma“ kao naučne činjenice, stoji u jednoj klauzuli.

Ovaj dogovor definiše kreacionizam kao „svaku doktrinu ili teoriju koja tvrdi da prirodni biološki procesi ne mogu da objasne historiju, diverzitet i kompleksnost života na zemlji i samim tim odbacuje naučnu teoriju evolucije i dodaje da tu ideju odbacuju ne samo naučne zajednice već i veliki broj crkava.

„To se ne slaže sa naučnim konsenzusom ili naučnim dokazima, niti koristi naučni metod i kao takav ne bi trebalo da bude prezentovan učenicima kao naučna teorija“, stoji u sporazumu.

Međutim, dozvoljeno je diskutovati o vjerovanju o porijeklu Zemlje, uključujući i kreacionizam, na vjerskom obrazovanji, sve dok nije predstavljen kao validna opšteprihvaćena alternativna naučna teorija.

[Lebowski]

Mislio sam da je ovo već izbačeno davno. Gledao sam skoro dokumentarac kako se postupa sa tim u Americi i dijelom Evropi.. Svako ko propagira mišljenje koje ne ide sa evolucijom dobija nogu iz škola ma kakav bio kadar...inteligentni dizajn, kreacionizam i sve slično nema mjesta u školama, fakultetima, institutima, naučnoj literaturi.

[Krokodil Behko]

I šta kažu? Kad će Darwinova teorija (napokon) postati tačna?

http://www.bosanski-forum.com/viewtopic ... 65&t=14648

[Katja]

Mislio sam da je ovo već izbačeno davno.

I ja.
U školama kao svjetovnim institucijama bi se trebala predavati samo znanja stečena primjenom znanstvene metode.

[dacina_curica]

Mislio sam da je ovo već izbačeno davno. Gledao sam skoro dokumentarac kako se postupa sa tim u Americi i dijelom Evropi.. Svako ko propagira mišljenje koje ne ide sa evolucijom dobija nogu iz škola ma kakav bio kadar...inteligentni dizajn, kreacionizam i sve slično nema mjesta u školama, fakultetima, institutima, naučnoj literaturi.

U Americi? Mozda na federalnom nivou ali sto se privatnih obrazovnih institucija tice oni mogu propagorati sta god im je volja.

[Dzagoda]

Mislio sam da je ovo već izbačeno davno. Gledao sam skoro dokumentarac kako se postupa sa tim u Americi i dijelom Evropi.. Svako ko propagira mišljenje koje ne ide sa evolucijom dobija nogu iz škola ma kakav bio kadar...inteligentni dizajn, kreacionizam i sve slično nema mjesta u školama, fakultetima, institutima, naučnoj literaturi.

U Americi? Mozda na federalnom nivou ali sto se privatnih obrazovnih institucija tice oni mogu propagorati sta god im je volja.

Ma ni na federalnom nivou. Ako je nastavnik krelac, i jos ga PTO podrzava (one uspaljene soccer moms ), dodje ti dijete kuci sa raznoraznim teorijicama.

Potpis: Rusitelj PTO

[dacina_curica]

Zato i rekoh mozda Jagoda, moj je jos mali da se susrecem sa tematikom.
Ali ocigledno se on susrece sa religijom u drzavnoj skoli (na moje nezadovoljstvo) jer zadnji Thanksgiving mi je dosao kuci sa listom "Zahvalan sam za" na kojoj je pisalo:
-moju familiju
-moje prijatelje
-moje igracke
-ISUSA
Ja ga pitam zna li on uopste ko je Isus, kaze "Znam, rekla mi Katelynn".

[Dzagoda]

-ISUSA
Ja ga pitam zna li on uopste ko je Isus, kaze "Znam, rekla mi Katelynn".

hahahahahahahahaha Pa sta:) Bude to i smijesno:) Moja mladja lom izaziva po skoli, dodje zamotane glave, samo oci vire, i slicno:))) Njen citav razred zna Bismilu, i u horu uce hahahahahahaha
Samo ih treba istrenirati dobro, pa se onda okrene na salu:) Djeca najbolje razumiju smijeh, i najbolje uce uz njeg:)

[Spanac_113]

mada bi ovo vise islo pod srednji istok ipak cu ovdje uvaliti clanak.

Stinking Hypocrisy

183 Egyptian political prisoners sentenced to death: international silence. One Australian reporter given prison sentence: international outrage.

Nobody wants to see the Al Jazeera journalists freed more than I do, but the western hypocrisy over the conduct of the CIA and Israel backed military dictatorship, which toppled Egypt’s only democratically elected government, is absolutely stinking. In the same week the Al Jazeera journalists were jailed, the United States resumed military supplies to its Egyptian puppet regime.

The BBC has been compounding the stinking hypocrisy by constantly broadcasting reports implicitly arguing that the Australian journalist should be released while the Egyptian journalists kept in prison. They have repeatedly broadcast the assertion that there is a difference between Al Jazeera’s English and Arabic output. The latter, the BBC say, was indeed biased to the Muslim Brotherhood (Egypt’s only democratically elected government) whereas the English language service, for which Peter Greste worked, was not.

The BBC thus seeks to square the circle of supporting the release of Peter Greste and at the same time taking the British government line of supporting the Egyptian dictatorship’s elimination of its political opponents.

The truth is that Peter Greste is only superficially the victim of an Egyptian dictator. At root he is the victim of a western foreign policy that believes the interests of Israel outweigh all other interests in the Middle East.

http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/ ... um=twitter

[dacina_curica]

Buraz
Naprosto obozavam Murray-a. Ljufina!

[Spanac_113]

masina straha u punom pogonu...


Liquid Lies Revisited


There never was a liquid bomb plot. It was proven in court not to exist. It was a fabrication of the minds governing a Pakistani torture chamber.

It is only a week ago that, as the terrorist industry sought to terrify us with the idea that jihadists from Syria would attack the UK, I wrote that:

“The patent absence of any genuine Islamic terrorism in the UK to fight is an obvious threat to the funding of this huge industry. Hence the current hype about the threat from Birmingham school governors or British residents fighting in Iraq and Syria. We have the usual propagandists for this threat thrust upon the airwaves again – Frank “Goebbels” Gardner and even the utterly discredited “Quilliam Foundation” who have been back on the BBC. At the moment they are peddling the utterly untrue line that 9% of those who travel from the UK to participate in fighting abroad, on return get involved in terrorist activity in the UK. Frank Gardner has been repeating this ad nauseam”

Now the terror industry has moved to ramp up this entirely false fear with worldwide headlines about a new threat of bombs on planes. The BBC and Sky both link this to the great “liquid bomb plot” of 2006. Everybody remembers that massive story that dominated the headlines for weeks. It was described by the British security services as “Bigger than 9/11″. Today BBC News described it as a “plot to bring down seven airliners simultaneously”.

22 people were arrested in Stasi style raids conducted on their hones at 2.30am. These included a 22 year old woman with a young baby. The Home Office proudly proclaimed that the Home Secretary, Dr John Reid, had been awake all night and personally directed those raids on sleeping families with children.

You may recall that the tabloids – directed by Rebekah Brooks and Coulson – ran front page stories about the evil Islamic mother and the liquid explosive in her baby bottles. These evil Muslims are so heartless they are prepared to blow up their own babies!! John Howard, Australian Prime Minister, said “That would be an appalling reflection on the lack of humanity of that child’s parents.”

Except it was all untrue. The chemical traces the police claimed to have found on the baby bottles proved to be Sodium Dichloroisocyanurate, normal baby bottle sterilising solution, from Boots. The woman was found not guilty on all charges. Neither the tabloids, the police, nor Dr John Reid and John Howard have ever apologised. Of the 22 people arrested in those darkest night raids, 19 were found not guilty. Three were convicted as terrorists – but there was nothing in their plans about blowing up aircraft. I am not personally convinced of the safety of their convictions anyway. They may have been unpleasant fantasists, but not much else. The recent death of Gerard Conlon reminds us all of the horrifying willingness of English juries to convict the demonised other, be they Irish Catholics or Muslims.

This is what I bogged just three days after the story broke. Everything I wrote here proved to be true:

“None of the alleged terrorists had made a bomb. None had bought a plane ticket. Many did not even have passports, which given the efficiency of the UK Passport Agency would mean they couldn’t be a plane bomber for quite some time.

In the absence of bombs and airline tickets, and in many cases passports, it could be pretty difficult to convince a jury beyond reasonable doubt that individuals intended to go through with suicide bombings, whatever rash stuff they may have bragged in internet chat rooms.

What is more, many of those arrested had been under surveillance for over a year – like thousands of other British Muslims. And not just Muslims. Like me. Nothing from that surveillance had indicated the need for early arrests.

Then an interrogation in Pakistan revealed the details of this amazing plot to blow up multiple planes – which, rather extraordinarily, had not turned up in a year of surveillance. Of course, the interrogators of the Pakistani dictator have their ways of making people sing like canaries. As I witnessed in Uzbekistan, you can get the most extraordinary information this way. Trouble is it always tends to give the interrogators all they might want, and more, in a desperate effort to stop or avert torture. What it doesn’t give is the truth.

The gentleman being “interrogated” had fled the UK after being wanted for questioning over the murder of his uncle some years ago. That might be felt to cast some doubt on his reliability. It might also be felt that factors other than political ones might be at play within these relationships. Much is also being made of large transfers of money outside the formal economy. Not in fact too unusual in the British Muslim community, but if this activity is criminal, there are many possibilities that have nothing to do with terrorism.”

Despite the fact I was right and the entire mainstream media was wrong, I was directly attacked by highly paid alcoholic warmonger Nick Cohen in the Observer as a “conspiracy theorist”.

The famous “liquid bomb plot” was used by both the UK and US governments to drive through yet more anti-civil liberties legislation, despite the fact that the plot did not actually exist and the technology of home made portable and easily deployable binary liquid explosives is a myth.

The mass hysteria whipped up by the mainstream media and appalling neo-con politicians over the “liquid bomb plot” did a huge amount to boost the massive budgets of the terrorist industry. The media never carried the news of the non-existence of the plot, so there was never any downward pressure on those budgets as a result. The patent lack of Islamic terrorism in the West is becoming a threat to those budgets now. But, Hell! The liquid bomb myth worked last time, didn’t it? Why not use it again?

That the BBC can recycle as fact the “liquid bomb plot to blow up seven airlines” is sickening enough. But then they did something that was so jaw-dropping as to be unbelievable, even given the total lack of ethics at the BBC. To make sure the “fear” really sunk in, they showed a “reconstruction” of the liquid bomb plot. A section of aircraft fuselage was mounted on the ground, and then an explosion blew out a big hole in it. Text labelled it “reconstruction” underneath.

How can you have a “reconstruction” of something which never happened, and was shown in court not to have happened? I should love to believe that this BBC ploy is so ludicrous it did not work; but I have a sad feeling that 90% of people probably believe the “liquid bomb plot” did exist, as Tony Blair, George Bush, John Reid, John Howard and the entire media told them it existed, and nobody has ever told them it did not.

http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/ ... revisited/